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Old 09-01-2005, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Wazowski
I checked with DiscountTireDirect's competitor and they were not much help and was even a dick about running low offsets on the 350Z. There are many people running low offsets on here.

I e-mailed DiscountTireDirect with the template and they will have their wheel guy check for us. Hopefully this will give us some answers.

Victor

BOOOOOOO TO YOU!!!

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Old 09-01-2005, 12:51 PM
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I tried every 17" wheel that I have here for 350Z offsets and not... even high offset 48mm and up to see if it would work with a wheel adapter or spacer...

the inner diameter of the wheel was still too short...
Old 09-01-2005, 12:53 PM
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Well obviously 48mm is too high anyways. We need a low offset to at least clear the spokes.
Old 09-01-2005, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris@DTD
BOOOOOOO TO YOU!!!

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Haha, yeah it wasn't like I was going to buy anything from them. I just wanted to draw some info, but he was being a smartass anyways trying to tell me low offset is not right. BLAH.
Old 09-01-2005, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by John Hsieh
Victor,
Thanks for the template drawing. With FN01R-C 17x10 +12 5-114.3 wheel, there is plenty of room left for
your brake size of 355x32. There is no problem at all even with this big brake.

B. Rgds,

John Hsieh
5Zigen USA
Now I know most of you will not run a +12 offset or even a 17x10 in the front. That was for me but it gives insight to what is possible. I e-mailed him back to check on the fitment for the wheels that fit the 350Z.

So good for me, but will have to wait on the answer for you guys.

Victor
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Originally Posted by Mike Wazowski
Well obviously 48mm is too high anyways. We need a low offset to at least clear the spokes.

did you not read what I said?

even high offset 48mm and up to see if it would work with a wheel adapter or spacer...

Because if you put a SPACER or ADAPTER on a wheel with 60mm for example with a 35mm adapter it will then be a 15mm offset...

The INSIDE part of the wheel is usually larger diameter closer to the inside of the rim...

once again i will post this image



the CCW wheels our race cars run where a high offset... but they had a 35mm spacer... They do not make the CCW wheels with a different spoke curve...
atlesat the style we ran...

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Originally Posted by Mike Wazowski
Now I know most of you will not run a +12 offset or even a 17x10 in the front. That was for me but it gives insight to what is possible. I e-mailed him back to check on the fitment for the wheels that fit the 350Z.

So good for me, but will have to wait on the answer for you guys.

Victor
that wheel will extend 21mm more then my 9.5 +27mm

Old 09-01-2005, 02:57 PM
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My bad. I thought CCW's were custom. Couldn't they have ordered the right offset, so they wouldn't have to use suck a large spacer.
Old 09-01-2005, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason@Performance
Because if you put a SPACER or ADAPTER on a wheel with 60mm for example with a 35mm adapter it will then be a 15mm offset...
Wouldn't that result in a +25mm offset?
Old 09-01-2005, 03:12 PM
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yes it will be a +25...and you will also have zero studs left to bolt to. Offset does not operate in a vacuum. It is dependant upon width and pad height as well.

An 18x8.5 +30 with a 10mm spacer will not fit the same as an 18x8.5 +20. In fact, the wheel made with the +20 has a sufficient pad height to allow for the same wheel studs to be used and get 5-6 full turns. You would be luck to get 2-3 full turns on 18x8.5 +30 with a 10mm spacer though.
Old 09-01-2005, 03:22 PM
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I just got off the phone with John at 5Zigen again and he said the 17x8.0 +25 clears up front with no problem. The 17x9.0 +15, +20 clear up front as well. So basically all of the FN01R-C's in 17" with a low offset will clear. And if you decide to go 17x10.0 (+25, or +35 would be optimal) in the back then that defintiely won't be a problem. WOOHOO.

You can order though Hop Up Racing. Ask for Steve he will take care of you guys.

http://www.hopupracing.com

Here are all the sizing and color choices
http://www.5zigenusa.com/w_fn01rc.html

Victor
Old 09-01-2005, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
An 18x8.5 +30 with a 10mm spacer will not fit the same as an 18x8.5 +20. In fact, the wheel made with the +20 has a sufficient pad height to allow for the same wheel studs to be used and get 5-6 full turns. You would be luck to get 2-3 full turns on 18x8.5 +30 with a 10mm spacer though.
NISMO studs fix that problem.
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my bad, I had different numbers first and didnt change the second number...

50mm wheel 25mm adapter = 25mm
60mm wheel 35mm adapter = 25mm Jason cant do math today...

The reason why our race team had to do this was they only make one pad height CCW mesh wheel... So to make a larger pad height, they raise up the offset and run a spacer... Giving the wheels a lower offset and a higher pad height...

Not all wheels have differeht pad heights available... So not only do spacers give you a lower offset, they will also give you a higher pad height...

Pad height does not effect the wheel studs... That is hub mount thickness...

With spacers you have to use longer hub bolts... I would not even recomend a 5mm spacer without longer hub bolts... And always try to use hubcentric spacers...
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Originally Posted by Mike Wazowski
I just got off the phone with John at 5Zigen again and he said the 17x8.0 +25 clears up front with no problem. The 17x9.0 +15, +20 clear up front as well. So basically all of the FN01R-C's in 17" with a low offset will clear. And if you decide to go 17x10.0 (+25, or +35 would be optimal) in the back then that defintiely won't be a problem. WOOHOO.

You can order though Hop Up Racing. Ask for Steve he will take care of you guys.

http://www.hopupracing.com

Here are all the sizing and color choices
http://www.5zigenusa.com/w_fn01rc.html

Victor
Thanks for looking into this.
Old 09-01-2005, 05:14 PM
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someone should sticky this
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Originally Posted by Mike Wazowsk : i
I just got off the phone with John at 5Zigen again and he said the 17x8.0 +25 clears up front with no problem. The 17x9.0 +15, +20 clear up front as well. So basically all of the FN01R-C's in 17" with a low offset will clear. And if you decide to go 17x10.0 (+25, or +35 would be optimal) in the back then that defintiely won't be a problem. WOOHOO.

You can order though Hop Up Racing. Ask for Steve he will take care of you guys.

http://www.hopupracing.com

Here are all the sizing and color choices
http://www.5zigenusa.com/w_fn01rc.html

Victor
wonderfull news

thanks for sharing

they fit both front and rear?
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I hope they made sure to turn off the auto size to page when printing the PDF...

We are a 5Zigen dealer too... Im going to order a set tomorrow
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I meant to say hub thickness not pad height..thansk for the correction Jason
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all good! We are all multi tasking here

The first time I printed out the stop tech fitment chart, I didnt relize that their chart is actually a little bigger then a standard print page (atleast on our lazer jet printers)

It cleared the wheels, Then when we actually put the kit on... woops! it was a few mm off... Why? Because I didnt click the "Do not auto fit to page" in Acrobat...
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Originally Posted by Jason@Performance
all good! We are all multi tasking here

The first time I printed out the stop tech fitment chart, I didnt relize that their chart is actually a little bigger then a standard print page (atleast on our lazer jet printers)

It cleared the wheels, Then when we actually put the kit on... woops! it was a few mm off... Why? Because I didnt click the "Do not auto fit to page" in Acrobat...
100% proof way to make sure template printed to correct size is to measure it once it's printed.

I had to resize my template with photoshop to have correct sizes. Size was-off even with "do not auto fit thing", and no amount of tweaking could make it print to correct effective size. Had to use PS.


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