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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 10:33 AM
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OK guys, I've got the OEM Brembo calipers and rotors. What other parts do I need to upgrade from the stock system on my '04 Roadster? The lines that attach to the calipers look different. Will a stainless kit cure this? Or do I need to purchase some kind of hard lines from Nissan?

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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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you need a bolts that go through the mounting bracket to the calipers. The threads are different from the stock bolts for some reason.

Thats the only thing you need...


I helped/did this upgrade saturday night. I remeber the little mounting bracket that holds the brake lines on the brembos is tricky. Other than that...it goes pretty smoothly. The bolts on the calipers can be hard to brake loose. You will need a hammer and 12mm wrench.

Removing the stock rotors is a pain too. A hammer and a towel is useful. Remember to take the parking brake off when you do the rears. hehe

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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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As far as the brake lines- be sure to specify that you have the Brembo package if you order stainless lines. I found the Stoptech brake line kit for the F & R Brembos did have to routed slightly differently than the OEM hard lines, but still had ample clearence.
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 06:55 AM
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Thanks for the replies guys. I've noticed that there is different hard line that conects to the Brembos. The line conecting to the regular calipers looks soft. I guess I'll just go to Nissan and touch my toes and order the lines. Unless someone knows of an aftermarket solution.
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by dkmura
As far as the brake lines- be sure to specify that you have the Brembo package if you order stainless lines. I found the Stoptech brake line kit for the F & R Brembos did have to routed slightly differently than the OEM hard lines, but still had ample clearence.
I have StopTech's lines on my brembos and they dont use the stock brembo routing, especially the one thats on the strut. I talked to StopTech about it and they said there could some slight rubbing on the strut when the wheels are turned all the way. I expected much better design that this from StopTech.

If I had to buy the lines again, I wouldnt buy StopTech, the least they could do is the use the stock routing to prevent rubbing.
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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then which other ss brake lines do you guys reccommend? goodridge?
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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StopTech does provide a bracket on the line to establish proper routing.

The line locating bracket can be used in 2 different locations as the stock lines are different for the Track (Brembo calipers) and non-Track models (standard slider calipers). On the non-Track model, there is a sheet metal bracket attached to the aluminum strut. After removing the stock line, we retain the sheet metal bracket and the line locating bracket attaches to the aft facing stud as shown in the first image:

On the Track model, the same line locating bracket is attached to one of the holes used to mount the sheet metal bracket used with the non-Track model calipers: https://my350z.com/forum/attachment....1&d=1145400312

We have a manual for installing the 350Z front lines, here is a link: http://8.7.96.35/tech_info/manuals_b...A_10-25-04.pdf

We have sold hundreds of line kits for all configurations of the 350Z including our big brake upgrades. We have never had any issues as long as the lines were properly routed.

If any of the above is unclear, please feel free to contact me directly, I'm always available to answer any questions.

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Originally Posted by StopTech Service
StopTech does provide a bracket on the line to establish proper routing.

The line locating bracket can be used in 2 different locations as the stock lines are different for the Track (Brembo calipers) and non-Track models (standard slider calipers). On the non-Track model, there is a sheet metal bracket attached to the aluminum strut. After removing the stock line, we retain the sheet metal bracket and the line locating bracket attaches to the aft facing stud as shown in the first image:

On the Track model, the same line locating bracket is attached to one of the holes used to mount the sheet metal bracket used with the non-Track model calipers:
I am not talking about those attach points, but the strut attachment point on the front lines, that is convieniently ignored. I find that the lines are very close to the strut and could come in contact with the strut if the wheel is turned all the way.

This issue should have been addressed while the lines were designed. It would definitely help if someone at StopTech could explain why stock routing was changed and what were the advantages of that.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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only thing i'd like to see is a poly jacket over the stainless braid. I've seen too many stainless lines get pre-mature wear by dirt getting trapped between the braid and the rubber... Do ya'll have any plans to do this?
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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All of our lines have a silicone outer jacket as standard to prevent those problems.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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awsome...i couldnt see it in the pics
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Originally Posted by Ahsmo
you need a bolts that go through the mounting bracket to the calipers. The threads are different from the stock bolts for some reason.
The bolts are only different on the back calipers...

Originally Posted by Ahsmo
The bolts on the calipers can be hard to brake loose. You will need a hammer and 12mm wrench.
Agreed... I used a two foot breaker bar on a really long wrench and still had some difficulty.

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Removing the stock rotors is a pain too. A hammer and a towel is useful.
Amen... This shocked the heck out of me - that the hardest part of the whole job was removing the rotors which should slide off! I used a piece of wood and a 5lbs hand sledge to break mine loose... and it took a while even with all that. Put a THIN layer of grease on the inside of the rotor hat where it contacts the hub and on the inside of the lug holes and this will never be a problem again!

One more thing to watch out for. The nuts that hold the stock break lines in place a made out of VERY soft metal. I stripped one and had to take it off with a bolt splitter.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ht4
The bolts are only different on the back calipers...
Nissan...

whatever
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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Thanks for the good info guys.
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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Can someone list the part numbers for the hard lines that connect to the brembo's?

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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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so stoptech has stainless lines for my 05 to brembo converison that have poly jackets ontop of the steel braid? if they do ill buy them.
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Originally Posted by StopTech Service
StopTech does provide a bracket on the line to establish proper routing.

The line locating bracket can be used in 2 different locations as the stock lines are different for the Track (Brembo calipers) and non-Track models (standard slider calipers). On the non-Track model, there is a sheet metal bracket attached to the aluminum strut. After removing the stock line, we retain the sheet metal bracket and the line locating bracket attaches to the aft facing stud as shown in the first image: https://my350z.com/forum/attachme...1&d=1145400312

On the Track model, the same line locating bracket is attached to one of the holes used to mount the sheet metal bracket used with the non-Track model calipers: https://my350z.com/forum/attachme...1&d=1145400312

We have a manual for installing the 350Z front lines, here is a link: http://8.7.96.35/tech_info/manuals_b... 10-25-04.pdf

We have sold hundreds of line kits for all configurations of the 350Z including our big brake upgrades. We have never had any issues as long as the lines were properly routed.

If any of the above is unclear, please feel free to contact me directly, I'm always available to answer any questions.
You do realize that for Brembo alternate routing in the manual you have the line routed above the bolt, and in the pic attached you have it going the other way (line below the bolt). I installed your SS lines this past weekend and was fiddling with both methods. It seems that the one indicated in the manual (line above the bolt) yielded the least rubbing at full lock, but honestly it is still somewhat concerning. The only mitigating factor could be that with the suspension compressed (not on jack stands), this adds some additional slack in the line which will prevent the rubbing. Not trying to b*tch, just pointing it out...they are great lines and all hardware used is top notch.
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So how much $$$ is it for everything to convert to the Brembo's?
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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So how much $$$ is it for everything to convert to the Brembo's?
It depends on which Brembo BBK you're talking with. They can range from over $4K for a brand new Brembo kit to less than a grand for a set of used track model Brembos (F & R calipers, stress members, rotors and lines) on the private classifieds board here. Caveat emptor!
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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Used track setups go for around $1500 with everything.
If you decide you want new pads, rotors, ss lines, repainting/powder coating that stuff adds up accordingly.

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