Carbotech brake pad update #3, the final chapter
Originally posted by alphaz
I ran at little Talladega Gran Prix , which is a mile and 1\4 flat "U" shaped track for 5 sessions at 5 to 6 laps each session. In the back and front straights I was hitting between 80 to 90 mph . My stock brembos held up great. The only upgrades were to the brake lines and fluid. Needless to say I was impressed.
But I'm always looking to improve the setup over stock....hence Carbotech
I ran at little Talladega Gran Prix , which is a mile and 1\4 flat "U" shaped track for 5 sessions at 5 to 6 laps each session. In the back and front straights I was hitting between 80 to 90 mph . My stock brembos held up great. The only upgrades were to the brake lines and fluid. Needless to say I was impressed.
But I'm always looking to improve the setup over stock....hence Carbotech
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Hells bells Mike ,
I was'nt counting that was a guess on my part. I was having too much fun. That's even better for the brembos. I will have track pads , S-tune , different tires and wheels before Roebling Road.
I was'nt counting that was a guess on my part. I was having too much fun. That's even better for the brembos. I will have track pads , S-tune , different tires and wheels before Roebling Road.
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I'm curious how these pads hold up under HEAVY track conditions. I have the same pad setup for my Brembos, that are still in the box. They have to be sent back to Matt for a rework, too tight of a fit.
The Brembo brakes are quite large. Large is good for reduced operating temps. If you have the same problem, I'll be shocked.
Originally posted by MaddMatt
The problem is (was) EXTREME heat. The Panther Plus reacts differently to extreme heat than carbon-metallics. A typical carbon-metallic based track pad will fade when pushed very hard. When it fades, you back off. Instead of fading what the Panther plus does is begin to wear at an accelerated rate. But it doesn't fade. So you drive and brake harder...getting them hotter and hotter...until....you get the idea. I'm talking in the 1200 degree range. That's very, very hot. Well beyond the operating range of Hawk Blue, which might be the most popular race-only pad for OE calipers.
The problem is (was) EXTREME heat. The Panther Plus reacts differently to extreme heat than carbon-metallics. A typical carbon-metallic based track pad will fade when pushed very hard. When it fades, you back off. Instead of fading what the Panther plus does is begin to wear at an accelerated rate. But it doesn't fade. So you drive and brake harder...getting them hotter and hotter...until....you get the idea. I'm talking in the 1200 degree range. That's very, very hot. Well beyond the operating range of Hawk Blue, which might be the most popular race-only pad for OE calipers.
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It's not that easy guys. I wish it were. Just too many factors to consider. "All out" to you might not be "all out" to someone else. Are you running R compound or street tires? Is it raining? Do you have any brake cooling? Are you a novice or instructor? I could go on and on.
Our best race pad is Panther XP. Wear rate is not it's most outstanding feature. If you are unhappy with it's wear rate, I'd suggest Hawk Blue. It will last longer, but at the expense of your rotors, and possible the finish on your wheels.
Our best race pad is Panther XP. Wear rate is not it's most outstanding feature. If you are unhappy with it's wear rate, I'd suggest Hawk Blue. It will last longer, but at the expense of your rotors, and possible the finish on your wheels.
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