How do Wilwood BBKs stack up to OEM Brembos/Stoptechs/AP Racing/Rotoras/..etc?
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Originally Posted by 03BrickyardZ
I'm curious about balancing... the fastbrakes website has front and rear kits that have the same diameter rotors... Isn't this odd? Would you need to adjust bias if you were running these to keep the rears from locking up before the fronts? Meh? This is really what I want to know... I wan't to know how good they are as an overall system, and mow much work need to go into getting them really right.
A good question. But I'm not going to take aim at another mfg just because of what they do or how they do it. Running the same rotor front and back is fine so long as the other aspects of the package are proper sized. Looking at rotor diameter is but one aspect of the torque equation.
On might argue the benefits of same replacement parts and maybe shared pads if they are the same calipers also. That's a selling point really not a mark of good or bad.
As for brake bias I'll go on a limb and say it's often over stated and used mostly by those who don't even understand it. Yes it is important and yes it should be considered. But a simple pad change alone can alter that perfect balance by over 5%. The optimum balance is based on the vehicles dynamics, the tires of use, the road surface and honestly; what the driver likes. Achieving the optimum stopping distance is nice but again, by itself, doesn't make one design better or worse than another.
Price vs quality is a difficult thing to quantify. You can pay way more for something and that alone does not mean it's better or worse. I'd prefer it come down to picking the right kit for you needs and budget both. Someone mentioned pads as a key factor- so true. And I'm certain there are some who can use oem parts very effectively. Hey, sometimes a BBK is a bandaide for poor driving skills.
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Originally Posted by dklau33
Even though the big name brands may cost more than some of these piece-mealed Wilwood kits, I'd rather spend the extra money on a kit that I know had thorough R&D done on it likeBrembo, Stoptech, AP, genuine factory Wilwood, etc. Brakes are too important of a safety feature to skimp money on.
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JDMFairladyZ33 - Hey bro, I know you're wanting the BBK badly but for the price of the Wilwood (or any other brand) front BBK you can get front AND rear with the brembos and probly also upgrade the rotors too. For 2k you can get front and rear OEM Brembos. I think thats a better choice...at least in my opinion. Thats why I waited around for the oem brembos instead of the front only bbk
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JDMFairladyZ33 - Hey bro, I know you're wanting the BBK badly but for the price of the Wilwood (or any other brand) front BBK you can get front AND rear with the brembos and probly also upgrade the rotors too. For 2k you can get front and rear OEM Brembos. I think thats a better choice...at least in my opinion. Thats why I waited around for the oem brembos instead of the front only bbk
I really like your setup but front + rear Wilwoods (the kit from the link) comes out to be $1150 (6 pot) + $1200 (4 pot) = $2350. Average OEM Brembo systems sold here used are $2000-$2200. If you get the rotor upgrades you are about at the same price maybe even more. That is why I'm trying to get an idea of how these Wilwoods stack up. I don't track my car so Endless and AP Racings are pretty much overkills. According to Todd TCE the ones listed are not true Wilwoods factory kits. Now the decision making process has become harder not easier. There are a lot of good feed backs here and I appreciate those who have chimed in. Anybody else got something to say regarding this subject please share your thoughts.
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Originally Posted by JDMFairladyZ33
I really like your setup but front + rear Wilwoods (the kit from the link) comes out to be $1150 (6 pot) + $1200 (4 pot) = $2350. Average OEM Brembo systems sold here used are $2000-$2200. If you get the rotor upgrades you are about at the same price maybe even more. That is why I'm trying to get an idea of how these Wilwoods stack up. I don't track my car so Endless and AP Racings are pretty much overkills. According to Todd TCE the ones listed are not true Wilwoods factory kits. Now the decision making process has become harder not easier. There are a lot of good feed backs here and I appreciate those who have chimed in. Anybody else got something to say regarding this subject please share your thoughts.
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Originally Posted by AlvinHuyN
JDMFairladyZ33 - Hey bro, I know you're wanting the BBK badly but for the price of the Wilwood (or any other brand) front BBK you can get front AND rear with the brembos and probly also upgrade the rotors too. For 2k you can get front and rear OEM Brembos. I think thats a better choice...at least in my opinion. Thats why I waited around for the oem brembos instead of the front only bbk
Thanks for the heads up. I have read from some forums that you would loose the use of the E-brakes from the Wilwoods. What I am not sure is if it's on older models or some factory kits. It doesn't appear that the lastblueprint in this thread lost his:
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....hlight=wilwood
Texas is pretty much flat and I would have a problem with loosing the e-brakes. I would hate to imagine doing so in Cali
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Although you have a vaild point here, you are missing the big picture.
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Originally Posted by JDMFairladyZ33
Thanks for the heads up. I have read from some forums that you would loose the use of the E-brakes from the Wilwoods. What I am not sure is if it's on older models or some factory kits. It doesn't appear that the lastblueprint in this thread lost his:
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....hlight=wilwood
Texas is pretty much flat and I would have a problem with loosing the e-brakes. I would hate to imagine doing so in Cali
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....hlight=wilwood
Texas is pretty much flat and I would have a problem with loosing the e-brakes. I would hate to imagine doing so in Cali
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I have the AZC front kit... I do not track my car but I do go out on the occasional "Sunday Drive" in the hills... I had non-b's and now I have the front 6 Pot kit... Overall, Im very satisfied with my investment... I would have gone with Stoptech but since I dont track my car I chose the AZC kit... Ill be more than happy to post pics so you can see what they look like... Oh yeah I had some parts adonized blue to match the car ..
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Yea, please post some pics.
I too am interested in these "kits":
http://fastbrakes.com/shop/product_i...roducts_id=714
I too am interested in these "kits":
http://fastbrakes.com/shop/product_i...roducts_id=714
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Originally Posted by goodkd
Yea, please post some pics.
I too am interested in these "kits":
http://fastbrakes.com/shop/product_i...roducts_id=714
I too am interested in these "kits":
http://fastbrakes.com/shop/product_i...roducts_id=714
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Originally Posted by C Ray Z
These look sweet too. Very similar to the FastBrake kit. This set comes with a very well known SS line and a few other perks. But, it is $1-1.5K more expensive than FastBrakes.....
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