OEM Non-brembo upgrade?
I am interested in tracking my 04 base Z and I will need new brakes very soon. My pads and rotors are worn out and I am thinking of upgrading them...A BBK is out of the question right now, although ultimately thats what I will use...but I'm just looking for a decent upgrade as a begginner for the non brembo oem's for a HPDE and such...I'm looking for performance, pad life and fade resistance, I dont care what color or anything like that
Pads: Hawk
Rotors: Does stoptech make slotted rotors for non brembo? if so thats what Im leaning towards...
Lines: SS braided
Fluid: Motul 600v
Does anyone recomend anything else or other than what I have listed? Those are my plans for now...
Any help is much appreciated
thanks
Pads: Hawk
Rotors: Does stoptech make slotted rotors for non brembo? if so thats what Im leaning towards...
Lines: SS braided
Fluid: Motul 600v
Does anyone recomend anything else or other than what I have listed? Those are my plans for now...
Any help is much appreciated
thanks
Members often make the mistake of matching performance rotors with street pads, or street pads with performance rotors. The results can be less than satisfactory. TireRack has a good selection at reasonable prices.
the oe non-brembo system sucks. i've tracked my 03 touring 3 times with cryo'd powerslot rotors, hawk hp+ pads, ss lines, elf frelub 650 synthetic brake fluid... and i've had brake issues one way or another.
you can certainly have fun with the non brembo setup though. just make sure your brake system is bled properly and fluid is relatively new. and when you get to a point where you cant handle the suckyness, look into upgrading.
i've decided to get oe brembo setup after tinkering with the idea of going front bbk only. although the price had a lot to do with my decision, i do feel that it should be a good setup for my daily car that gets tracked 5-6 times a year.
i have the oe brembo calipers, ss lines, wilwood fluid and hp+ pads to install in about a week. i am going to put some ceramic pads for the street as i cannot live with the hp+'s squeeling noise and excessive dusting.
you can certainly have fun with the non brembo setup though. just make sure your brake system is bled properly and fluid is relatively new. and when you get to a point where you cant handle the suckyness, look into upgrading.
i've decided to get oe brembo setup after tinkering with the idea of going front bbk only. although the price had a lot to do with my decision, i do feel that it should be a good setup for my daily car that gets tracked 5-6 times a year.
i have the oe brembo calipers, ss lines, wilwood fluid and hp+ pads to install in about a week. i am going to put some ceramic pads for the street as i cannot live with the hp+'s squeeling noise and excessive dusting.
I'm not an authority on brakes but here are some questions/tips.
Are your rotors really shot? Have you measured them? If they are not then don't change them as the OEM rotors are pretty good. It doesn't make sense to get a stage 2 kit if you're going BBK later on.
Get SS lines, good fluid Motul RBF600 or similar and RACE pads. Don't bother with high performance street pads, get RACE pads and swap them for the event.
I tried a bunch of different pads with the stock brake system before going BBK, and the only ones that will last and perform are Race pads (raybestos, portefield, PFC, etc...)
Are your rotors really shot? Have you measured them? If they are not then don't change them as the OEM rotors are pretty good. It doesn't make sense to get a stage 2 kit if you're going BBK later on.
Get SS lines, good fluid Motul RBF600 or similar and RACE pads. Don't bother with high performance street pads, get RACE pads and swap them for the event.
I tried a bunch of different pads with the stock brake system before going BBK, and the only ones that will last and perform are Race pads (raybestos, portefield, PFC, etc...)
Thanks for all the replies...I'm really not looking for something too crazy right now. Its just that I need new brakes and I figured I'de go for a mild upgrade right now, then go with a 6/4 piston setup in the future...
The link the Lawn Dart posted is basically what I'm looking for...a mild upgrade from stock just to get familiar with the track...I dont think its to bad for $650 for a full matching kit...then upgrqading to BBK when I need too.
Once again, thanks for all the replies...
The link the Lawn Dart posted is basically what I'm looking for...a mild upgrade from stock just to get familiar with the track...I dont think its to bad for $650 for a full matching kit...then upgrqading to BBK when I need too.
Once again, thanks for all the replies...
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Not sure what you mean by a performance rotor?
Assumming they are the same diameter and thickness, are you speaking of exotic metallugy or redesigned [from oem] internal support/fan vanes.
Slotting and drilling generally reduce weight which will increase rotor rise temperature. Drilling might allow extra airflow if the speeds are high enough, sometimes useful in the rain to allow steam to escape in a different path.
Most important is the grade of the cast iron along with the quality of cast plant and how they adhere to standards.
Concentric [which owns StopTech] has a decent high grade plain rotor which is close to oem specs. It weighs almost as much as oem.
Assumming they are the same diameter and thickness, are you speaking of exotic metallugy or redesigned [from oem] internal support/fan vanes.
Slotting and drilling generally reduce weight which will increase rotor rise temperature. Drilling might allow extra airflow if the speeds are high enough, sometimes useful in the rain to allow steam to escape in a different path.
Most important is the grade of the cast iron along with the quality of cast plant and how they adhere to standards.
Concentric [which owns StopTech] has a decent high grade plain rotor which is close to oem specs. It weighs almost as much as oem.
http://www.racingbrake.com/350Z_s/2432.htm
About the same cost as a set of rotors and pads, but you increase the size of the rotor therefore increase the life of your pad and rotor and increase the brake torque.
Contact them for a local distributor. I think they're based out of New Jersey.
About the same cost as a set of rotors and pads, but you increase the size of the rotor therefore increase the life of your pad and rotor and increase the brake torque.
Contact them for a local distributor. I think they're based out of New Jersey.
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