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Old 05-08-2007 | 07:21 AM
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which one should i get?

I poor....... i can't afford more than $800


1. Tein S-Tech
2. Tein Basic

What's Pros and Cons?



thinking about getting # 1 or 2 and upgrade to Tein Flex after 2 years later..
thans in advance
Old 05-08-2007 | 07:24 AM
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If you don't wanna go coilovers you could just do springs..

I recently put the Tanabe GF210s on my car. They usually give a 1 inch drop in the front and a 1.2 inch drop in the rear. Invision 350z is a forum sponsor on here and he sells them at a great price.
Old 05-08-2007 | 07:26 AM
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S-Tech's; $200
Old 05-08-2007 | 07:27 AM
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$800 with install or DIY? If you're goin to upgrade just get springs for now. So Tein S-techs.
Old 05-08-2007 | 07:29 AM
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Also keep in mind that when you lower your car you'll most likely need camber arms; depending on how bad it is after being lowered.
Old 05-08-2007 | 07:31 AM
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For an inch drop just get tanabe gf210 springs.
drops: 1 inch front and 1.2 rear.
might need camber kit but I think the total with springs comes out < 800.
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Originally Posted by sgshap06
Also keep in mind that when you lower your car you'll most likely need camber arms; depending on how bad it is after being lowered.
He's only looking for an inch. No camber arms needed.
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I dropped mine with the tanabe gf210s and I needed the rear re-aligned badly. Every car is different though.
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looks like
S tech is 150 and Basic is 750.. shipped. and i will install my self..

and sounds like i need camber arms for basic and not for S tech.. am i right?

thanks for all the inputs
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Is the perfect EVEN drop

1in (front) 1.5in(rear)

or

1in (front) 1.2in(rear)

???
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Originally Posted by behjjeh
and sounds like i need camber arms for basic and not for S tech.. am i right?
I do not know the drop height of the basics, haven't had time to look it up, this would be more applicable to the S-Techs... If your worried about being able to realign the vehicle within usable specs, here is the rule of thumb:

If drop <= to 1inch, after they have settled, a regular alignment job will get you back into good driving condition. Anything lower, you would want to look into some type of camber adjustments to prevent abnormal wear of the inner tires.
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Originally Posted by vo7848
He's only looking for an inch. No camber arms needed.
Dropping it anywhere in the ball park of an inch will require a rear camber kit. If you leave it as is you'll create excessive tire wear. Cost of Tires > cost of camber kit.


BTW: My tanabe gf210s drop created 2.6 degrees of negative camber on both rears. Stock camber arms can only be adjusted + or - 1/2 degree. So even if you were dropped 3/4 inch the rear camber and toe could not be fixed with stock camber arms/toe bolts.

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Originally Posted by dutchboy350Z
Dropping it anywhere in the ball park of an inch will require a rear camber kit. If you leave it as is you'll create excessive tire wear. Cost of Tires > cost of camber kit.
With all due respect, you're the second person that has said this. My S-techs never required a rear camber kit. If I'm not mistaken, the drop was 0.75 in the rear. After settling, it was closer to an inch. My alignment man was able to realign it just fine. I haven't had any type premature wearing. Is there something I'm missing?
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You don't need a rear camber kit nor an alignment with the Tein S springs.
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Originally Posted by vo7848
With all due respect, you're the second person that has said this. My S-techs never required a rear camber kit. If I'm not mistaken, the drop was 0.75 in the rear. After settling, it was closer to an inch. My alignment man was able to realign it just fine. I haven't had any type premature wearing. Is there something I'm missing?
No disrepect taken . What was your initial and final rear camber and toe specs.

Initial crappy camber and toe.



After spc camber/toe install and alignment. Back to stock specs.

The rear camber must be between -1.1 and -2.1. Toe must be between +0.04 and +0.12. For me personally I'd be smack dab in the middle then on the edges.



Stock vs Spc camber/toe kit.


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Originally Posted by dutchboy350Z
No disrepect taken . What was your initial and final rear camber and toe specs.
Oh man, I wish I could tell ya'. I had my car re-aligned after I replaced the tires, installed my S-techs, and let it settle for a couple of weeks. I wanna say it was about a year ago. I took the rear wheels off 2 days ago to do some body work. I must say, the thread wear is even across the tire. This is why it's so hard for me to imagine anyone needing a rear camber kit...
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Originally Posted by vo7848
Oh man, I wish I could tell ya'. I had my car re-aligned after I replaced the tires, installed my S-techs, and let it settle for a couple of weeks. I wanna say it was about a year ago. I took the rear wheels off 2 days ago to do some body work. I must say, the thread wear is even across the tire. This is why it's so hard for me to imagine anyone needing a rear camber kit...
Your alignment must have brought you back close to stock spec .
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TEIN S.TECH Spring is an excellent step towards suspension tuning. They offer approximately a 1.5 inch drop for a more aggressive appearance. Comes with a 1 year limited warranty. Spring length is guaranteed not to sag more than 5mm and to be clear of any manufacture defects (see limited warranty for more details).

* One year limited warranty.

* High-grade material adapted to improve guaranteed satisfaction.

* Rubber spring protector sheet to prevent noise (most applications).

Spring rate: Front 386lbs Rear 402lbs

Lowers: Front -0.7" Rear -0.6"



so which of these is right? 1.5 inch or .7 and .6 or am i reading something wrong?
Old 06-04-2007 | 09:13 AM
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Id do Hotckis springs for $135 and align it (somewhere good!) and you shouldnt have issues getting back into spec with the minimal rear camber/toe adjustment. They are also designed to be used with stock shocks. If you go 1.5" lower I guarantee you will be in the same boat as Dutchboy and need camber arms/toe bolts + install + alignment = $$$$$
Old 06-04-2007 | 06:54 PM
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How much does it typically cost to have a shop install the springs for you? I'm interested in mild drop on my stock 04 as well. I like the specs that Tein gives you with less than an inch of a drop. Can someone confirm that it only lowers 0.7" in front and 0.6" in rear?


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