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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 10:52 PM
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Default Has anyone driven both 350Z's with NISMO S and JIC suspensions?

I know that everyone that purchases either JIC coilovers or NISMO S suspension seem to like them. My hope is that someone here has driven both suspension set ups and can write up what they feel the pros/cons of each are. The bottom line is I want to purchase one but I am not sure on which one to get.

I hope you guys can help....Jeff
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 04:53 AM
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I have not driven both, but I know that the JIC is definitely stiffer, more harsh for street driving.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 08:48 AM
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I thought a coilover suspension was totally adjustable so you could adjust it to ride either harder or softer than lets say the NISMO. Am I missing something?
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 09:11 AM
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If the coilover has adjustable shocks, you can change the ride firmess. The advantage of a coilover is being able to adjust ride height though.

When adjusting a coilover, you are only changing the position of the spring in relation to the rest of the suspension, not altering ride quality.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by Mike Wazowski
I have not driven both, but I know that the JIC is definitely stiffer, more harsh for street driving.
Ah, their are 2 totally different Jic coilovers. Which one did you drive in and what did it's owner set the settings to on the dampeners. I think I know which version it was, but I wanna see if you know, It's really important to know which one when giving out a opinion.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 05:15 PM
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I haven't driven the JIC's, but I'm very pleased with the Nismo S-Tune setup. I installed mine in February and think it's great. The Nismo LM-GT4's (SO3's) probably help, but the characteristics are entirely different (read much better) than the stock setup. There is no hint of understeer any longer. In fact the car's handling is completely neutral now.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 06:15 PM
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I have driven in both and am opting for the JIC FLTA2 coilovers. NISMO has a very subtle drop (20mm) and the ride is good for street.

JIC FLTA2 on the other hand is a coilover with adjustable height and 15 adjustable settings for how stiff the shocks are. I like stiffer suspension but you can adjust it. These is the best suspension you can buy for your car currently out on the market. I am going to get into autocrossing soon and I already track so I need the adjustable shocks for track and street.

It is up to you. Do you want good on the street?......NISMO S-Tune kit. Costs about $1,500.

or, Do you want overall good for track and street...JIC FLTA2.
Also the JIC FLTA2 cost $1,949. I ordered it and can't wait till I get it.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 06:32 PM
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any reason your leaning towards nismo sways? Stillen and cusco and wright all have adjustable sways
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 09:37 PM
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Sillent Killer:
1. Since you have driven both, couldnt the JIC's be set to about the same ride hardness as NISMO to dublicate thar ride?
2. Actually, from an appearance standpoint, it seems the JIC has the flexability to look just as you like it compare to the 20mm set ht/you better like how it looks NISMO.
3. Are you are saying the JIC will out handle the NISMO? It sounds like it. If yes, what advantage do you see if any for the NISMO?
4. It sounds like you like both so maybe this is a win - win situation?
5. I am not letting price be the main factor, I want the best overall set up.I am concerned about tire wear/feathering and warranty on JIC. Has anyone with JIC experienced feather? I guess I can always get camber adjustment add ons...

350z4steve:
I was leaning toward NISMO sways because I have never heard anyone say anything negative about them. I know they are not adjustable.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 07:49 AM
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I had a chance to drive John350z's JIC's awhile ago...

i had a comparison to my TEINs..

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....threadid=29126
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it all comes down to personal preference and what you plan on doing with your car..normal driving, hard sport driving or on the track driving.
your best bet is and your on the right track is to test drive someones with a setup your looking for if your not sure.

like everyone has mentioned before hks and nismos for street teins in the middle ( although now they have a basic damper coilover for 850 ?) and JIC's for street/track.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 10:48 AM
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How do these 850 Teins differ than other Teins?
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 12:06 PM
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Cheston :

After driving both JIC and Tein, if you had to do it over again, would you give up the EDFC to have the JIC? I know the fluid sound bothers you that you have on the Teins when it is in the riding soft mode.

Jeff
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by zland
How do these 850 Teins differ than other Teins?
I think you can only adjust height on these TEIN Basics. Plus no EDFC to play with.
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I am into track and autocross so I am leaning toward the JIC's. They handle better and are adjustable. NISMO is good just for a small lower and better ride but isn't the best for track. It is a personal discision. Do you want to spend the extra $500 for the JIC's or not?
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1. If JIC is better and all it is is an issue of $500, I want the JIC. Can anyone tell me a reason beside price why they feel NISMO is the better suspension?

2. How long does it take to adjust the ride setting to convert it from street ride to track ride on the JIC?

3. Are any of you JIC owners adjusting your ride to street/softer and then readjusting it for the track or do you just keep it firm all the time?

thanks, Jeff
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no.

i still think the EDFC is worth it.

i mean. i can drive my mom around town on super soft, and push the button and go carving the next moment.

the noise is a little annoyance.. but i like flexability.

i'm sure the car will get noisier once everything is completed on the car.


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Cheston :

After driving both JIC and Tein, if you had to do it over again, would you give up the EDFC to have the JIC? I know the fluid sound bothers you that you have on the Teins when it is in the riding soft mode.

Jeff
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Originally posted by zland
1. If JIC is better and all it is is an issue of $500, I want the JIC. Can anyone tell me a reason beside price why they feel NISMO is the better suspension?

2. How long does it take to adjust the ride setting to convert it from street ride to track ride on the JIC?

3. Are any of you JIC owners adjusting your ride to street/softer and then readjusting it for the track or do you just keep it firm all the time?

thanks, Jeff

you cant really quantify and say one is better than the other unless one really is a piece of junk which i dont think any of these are. Personally I can only comment on the JIC's which im happy with and they just rock on the track. However the ride is significantly stiffer on these than the others however I bought mine @ 10Kg front and 12 kg rear which I recently changed to 9kg rear because i plan on adding stiffer sway bars and have a little more adjustment to work with while driving on the street since softest setting is still pretty firm. Ordinarily I would change nothing but there are alot of roads in and around LA that need work and very uneven this has helped take the edge off those and still the car handles like its on rails. hope this helps..also for those of you in the dark about what to get and dont want to toy with any settings it looks like for 850 the tein is a better value than the nismos s-tunes for those on a budget. Just my 0.02
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by Gcoupe35
Ah, their are 2 totally different Jic coilovers. Which one did you drive in and what did it's owner set the settings to on the dampeners. I think I know which version it was, but I wanna see if you know, It's really important to know which one when giving out a opinion.
Ok, if you drive Jic coilovers or you've driven in a Z that has them. WHICH one of the 2 coilovers that they offer are they or which version were they on the car you rode in?

JIC FLT-A2
"Our flagship coilover setup. The FLT-A2 features a light weight, 15 way adjustable monotube damper that ensures high strength and fade free performance. The ride height is adjustable separate from the spring perch giving you maximum suspension travel at any setting. This also allows for proper corner weighting of the vehicle without effecting spring preload settings.
590lbs front and 708lbs rear spring rates

OR

FLTA2-RS
"The FLTA2-RS has all of the great features of the normal FLTA2, but is custom tuned to the racer's needs on a case by case basis. Drag racers, road racers and even autocrossers will benefit from our custom tuned suspension. Price dependant on necessary configurations (i.e.. extra helper springs or very heavy spring rates.) I can't access the spec page right now, but I'm positive the spring rates are,......944lbs front and 1062lbs rear.

Everyone that mentioned driving with or in a RS version equipped Z has said their really harsh and aren't a good idea off the track. I just want to make sure no one is commenting about the RS version being driven on the street.

Changing subject:

I know the Tein's 16 level of dampening adjustment range makes a effective change covering 118lbs + or - on the springs. I'd like to know what range the Jic's dampener adjustability covers. I guess I should call Jic and find out.
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