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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 12:42 PM
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i'm just curious, in regards to sway bars, if they r considered a big mod or just a bolt-on. they don't seem hard too install; i'm more wonderin about where they fit in regards to other things. would they b the equivalent of an intake or set of cams? i know with springs they will f up your alignment, but will sway bars cause a detriment to anything? another concern is adjustin them; how hard is it to adjust the bars to what u want? r there presets u can pick from?
i hope i don't sound like a newbie, but i would like to know what u guys think. i strayed away from the eibachs cause of the alignment thing. i don't want sway bars if i run into issues with them either. just lookin for simple things i could diy; thanks.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 12:58 PM
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If you install NISMO sway bars, they are covered as a warranty item. They will not upset your alignemnt what so ever. All they do is effect the amount your car sways in a turn.

I put springs, sway bars, and added toyo proxy 265 ft and 295 rear tires and went to the track. I noticed none of the "stock" understeer qouted so often in reviews on the Z. I am not sure if it was the springs, sway bars, or tires. I do know they tested a 350Z set up much like mine in a recent Road and Track Magazine article. It gripped .94g as compared to stock .88g and much better than the other Stillen, Brembo Z's. They contributed it to the tires like mine which were significantly wider than the others. I hope this helps you...bottom line, no negatives on sways unless you do not like a stiff handling car. It is a simple 1 hour install.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 02:25 PM
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Sway Bars are a very simple and significant mod.

They are very easy to intall, see my instructions here

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....threadid=44361

They will cure the understeer that this car suffers from and make the cornering more stable and flat.

Victor
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 04:50 PM
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ok, sounds cool. i just wanted to check, and u guys were very helpful. like i said, i heard the effects of the springs and wasn't sure about these. it isn't hard to set them up the way u want them? i assume i could start with a moderate setting and go from there? thanks.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 06:11 PM
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I added wider tires 255 f and 275 r and wheels and noticed a huge improvement in cornering ability. I have no other suspension mods. I too do not have an issue with the understeer that I had with the stock tire setup.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 06:22 PM
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Last week I installed a set of nismo sway bars on my otherwise stock suspension, first thing I noticed when sitting in the car is that I felt like I was sitting a bit higher in the rear which made no real sense to me because I did not change the springs so I thought it was my imagination. Few days later my girlfriend sat in the car and said the car seems like I am sitting up higher, so the only thing I can think is that when sitting in the car before the mod maybe the car squatted down a bit but now that the bars are thicker it transfers the weight to both springs that's the only thing I can think of that would cause that.

Deftly noticed that the steering is lighter, turn in is faster and now the car feels like one solid long rod that's the only way I can explain it but I am getting used to it a little more everyday.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by TheBigShow
ok, sounds cool. i just wanted to check, and u guys were very helpful. like i said, i heard the effects of the springs and wasn't sure about these. it isn't hard to set them up the way u want them? i assume i could start with a moderate setting and go from there? thanks.
they are easy to adjust but you have to get under the car every time you want to make the adjustments.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 08:59 PM
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do you have to take off any wheels to install the sway bars
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 04:33 AM
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nope
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 11:36 AM
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I installed Nismo sways on my Redline track and have to differ with the 'one-hour install time. It helps, if you are installing both front and rear sway bars, to take off all four wheels. I don't happen to have a lift in MY garage and after putting the Z up on jack stands it took three and a half hours to swap out the bars.

The fronts were more difficult than the rears, due to the incredible torque values Nissan used on the front mounts. Don't underestimate a long lever arm (I ended up using a jack handle around a 1/2" breaker bar) to break some of the bolts loose!

The other posts are accurate in mentioning the benefits of installing sway bars. One potential downside is that bigger sway bars force your tires to work MUCH harder. I'm finding that I wear out the rears much quicker now...
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 12:07 PM
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I wouldn't take off the wheels during install because you should have the suspension preloaded when you install.
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by John
I wouldn't take off the wheels during install because you should have the suspension preloaded when you install.

Whether the wheels are on the car or not if the cars is on a lift their would be no load, so you mean try to do it while the cars is just sitting on the ground pretty tight job I would say don't you think?
Do you really think if you tighten the U. clamps up while the car is lifted it would not straighten itself out after driving it a bit
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 03:50 PM
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does the fact that nismo lists the sway bars and other items as non vdc only make a difference? I guess what im asking is why do they specify vehicles without vdc?
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 04:11 PM
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it works on VDC as well

the tires do not need to be on the car -
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 05:03 PM
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The bars with the 245/275 tire combo was huge in the handling dept for me. After we installed the S-Tune and dropped the car a bit the ride even seems better.
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