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Old 11-23-2003, 07:43 AM
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They are coming !!!
We have a lot of things we have developed but just havent put up on the site yet.
Most of our products are going to be serious suspension products with pure performance in mind.
Old 11-23-2003, 07:46 AM
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so you are saying the OEM Bushing is doing some kind of control or interference with the rear shocks? So by changine the bushing to a more controllerable type, then we can take full advantage of the KONI shocks?

thanks..
Old 11-23-2003, 08:02 AM
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See I def need to be better with words !

The bounce fromwhat we have seen is caused by a couple of things....
1. lack of shock control or improper valving
2. wind up in the rear upper control arm bushings
3. there are also some geometry things going on but thats later!

on OEM equipment
#2 over powers #1=bounce ...bounce ...bounce
On Konis
the shocks are able to control the rear better but the bushing issue still remains.
Also take in mind that I am going on performance here...

The konis are def valved a lot better and have better control.....but the bushings issue remains.
Jay at Koni and I have already had this discussion.....
If anyone has time today and would really like to see what I am talking about.... disconnect the rear upper control arm from the hub and first try and lift it up.......you will get a really good idea of what i am talking about. If you do let is go ... and please be careful and make sure nothing is in its path.
These are striclty observations and opinions of what we have seen while testing , racing and developing our 350Z.
Old 11-23-2003, 11:49 AM
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BJ,

Thanks for you observations. Keep them comin. Sounds like the Konis are big step in fixing the bounce. Hope you guys can come up with a package deal soon as the Konis are available. You know a set of Konis, 350Evo Sways & bushings. What do you think?
Old 11-23-2003, 12:14 PM
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These konis are def a good deal!
Old 11-23-2003, 12:50 PM
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BJ,

Are the bushings you are talking about the $1575 kit you guys sale or a set developed for the street market? Are you guys still planning on carrying the SA Konis you are now testing?

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Old 11-23-2003, 04:58 PM
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No that kit replaces other key bushings on the car. Very key!
Old 11-24-2003, 02:43 AM
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BJ,

As far as this suspension issue how many bushings are we talking need to be replaced? Will you guys carry the Konis?
Old 11-24-2003, 05:11 AM
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dwnshift, you guys are on the cutting edge with this stuff and other stuff for the Z. But if you are talking about these konis for like $150 a piece and your bushing kit for $1575 to totally fix the bounce, me and a lot of owners will be bouncing into infinity, I bet. I am sorry, but that is too much f****** money.
Old 11-24-2003, 05:47 AM
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Originally posted by little_rod
dwnshift, you guys are on the cutting edge with this stuff and other stuff for the Z. But if you are talking about these konis for like $150 a piece and your bushing kit for $1575 to totally fix the bounce, me and a lot of owners will be bouncing into infinity, I bet. I am sorry, but that is too much f****** money.
I think that is a diff kit. Shocks will be around $175-200 apiece but well worth it. They do have a lifetime warranty.
Old 11-24-2003, 06:25 AM
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Little_rod

No I am not talking about the spherical bearing kit. That kit replaces differnet bushings on the car that are critical for pure tracking.
This is an example of 1 spherical bearing/bushing.
Attached Thumbnails Konis are on!-350evo-parts-001.jpg  
Old 11-24-2003, 06:26 AM
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Here is a Delrin bushing.
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Old 11-24-2003, 06:27 AM
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And Polyurethane bushing......well a couple of them pictures without inserts.
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Old 11-24-2003, 06:32 AM
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Don't look nearly as $$$$.
Old 11-24-2003, 06:38 AM
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The Delrin arent as expensive and the poly ae less than the delrin. The Delrin kit is what we race with.
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Thanks BJ. I am hoping you guys put together a package deal on the Konis & bushings with and without your sway bars.
Old 11-24-2003, 01:36 PM
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Okay, if I understand it correctly, the Koni shocks alone will improve the ride and the handling will be as good or better than stock. The bushings will improve the handling further. Does this sum it up?
Old 11-24-2003, 01:37 PM
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YES....
We will be receiving the first 10 koni kits that come out. I have just been gauranteed this from our source. Price is not known as of yet.
I can see a deal coming together with our sway bars.
Old 11-24-2003, 02:30 PM
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So the bushings and Koni's fix the bounce? How much are your poly bushings?
Old 11-24-2003, 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by dwnshift
YES....
We will be receiving the first 10 koni kits that come out. I have just been gauranteed this from our source. Price is not known as of yet.
I can see a deal coming together with our sway bars.
I would like to reserve a set please. Might be interested in the sways & bushings too depending on pricing. BJ please PM me with how you want to handle this. Thanks!


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