Nihsnek

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So, I only have 50,000 miles on my Z but my ride quality is pretty poor. I am atrributing most of this to terrible 2003 OEM shocks and old tires (I will address tires next).

What is a good replacement shock to run with Hotchiks Springs? I wanted to go with Blistein B8's but they run $800 for all four!

Any opinions?

MicVelo

You want the BEST, well, you get what you pay for. And BTW, $800 is a good price for 'Steins.

On a budget: Tokico Blue - about $500 (GOOD), Tokico D-Spec (if available) $750 (BETTER)

Option: Bilstein B12 ProKit. Eibach Pro Kit spring set + full set of Bilstein BX (X denoted because original B12 ProKit came with B6 shocks, apparently later-current versions with B8)

Konis are up there in the Bilstein (alone) price range. Are stiffer but adjustable. Currently running these with ProKit springs. Prefer Bilstein.

terrasmak

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Mic couldn't have said it any better

DesertSleeper

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I have hotchkis springs on tokico blues, works great

JasonZ-YA

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x2...sup nihsnek...

Spike100

I recently installed the following:

Bilstein Shocks You buy one front right and one front left, and two rears (identical)

46mm Monotube Shock Absorber, Position: Front Left
Part Number: 24-101561
Series: B8 (SP)

46mm Monotube Shock Absorber, Position: Front Right
Part Number: 24-101578
Series: B8 (SP)

46mm Monotube Shock Absorber, Position: Rear
Part Number: 24-101585
Series: B8 (SP)
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Tein S-Tech Springs (two front and two rear)
Part Number: SKP26-AUB00
Spring Rate (kgf/mm, lbs/in): Front: 6.9/386 Rear: 7.2/402
Drop: Front: -17mm (-0.7”) Rear: -14mm (-0.6’)



The Bilstein shocks are just great. I doubt you can find anything that is better.

The Tein S-Tech springs are OK, but just too “bouncy.” I’m going to replace these with Swift springs.

Alex Tappin

Hey Mic and Spike. I have read through Spikes superthread about his install and have a couple of questions!

I am wanting to go with the Tein S-Tech Springs over hotchkis (due to the lowering height of rear vs front). I am thinking of Hotchkis 22413 sway bars as well. I am having troubles deciding what shocks to go with. I have met someone at work who has an extra set of Koni Yellows, which I hope to see how much he will sell them for (hopefully cheaper since we both have Z's lol). The Bilstein shocks also seem very tempting but also expensive.

I have thought about staying stock shocks for now until I talk with my co-worker about his koni yellows.

In the meantime, how much of a "waste" would it be to grab some Tokico HP blue shocks? I have read through a few forum posts and a lot of people mention they are really similar to stock shocks. There are some people who state the Tokico are slightly better and "beefier" and not the same as stock (with pictures to prove the Tokico blues are slightly thicker than stock).

Just some thoughts and comments would be nice!

2003 350z. Stock suspension at the moment (wanting to upgrade).

MicVelo

I run Koni Yellows on my '03. Great shocks due to their adjustability. BUT, if I had my druthers, I'd rather run the Bilsteins (B6 or B8) I had before I gave them to my son. The Konis, however, are true performance shocks and despite the not-so-great ride quality, are definitely worth the money.

My take on Tokico (and in the referenced thread, versus KYB): https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-...l#post10705621

Bottom line: Tokico Blues are the best PERFORMANCE shock in it's class (Low-Mid-priced); so, no, not a waste of time.

PS Still laugh at the title of this thread (and use of same misspell in the OP....) "Replacement Shocks with Hotchiks Springs". Ummmm, as much as da guys love da "hot chiks springs", it's H-O-T-C-H-K-I-S. A correction I'm sure Mr. Hotchkis appreciates. Heh heh....

Alex Tappin

Awesome thread you linked me to! That really brings my attention to getting the blues.

Would you suggest different springs to go along with the tokico blues and H-O-T-C-H-K-I-S sways? Or do the tein seem reasonable?
Thank you!
Haha, hotchiks

MicVelo

No, the Teins are fine. If you read any of my other comments about springs, you'll see my attitude about them is "there isn't a lot of difference between them".

Sure, quality wise, I advocate sticking with name brands - of which, Tein is one of them - but insofar as complexity of design, springs are the least difficult component for a manufacturer to get right, vis a vis, say, a shock or a sway bar.

Spring rate? Check. Overall length? Check. Good supply of spring steel? Check. Done.

People love the Tein springs. Here's another thread that discusses them and overall what you're looking for - good street suspension: https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-...coil-over.html

EDIT: which suddenly dawns on me that that might be Spike's thread that you already alluded to...oops.

Spike100

Shocks…
I agree with Mic about the Tokico Blue Shocks. They are decent shocks and a little better than stock. That’s actually saying a lot because the 350z stock shocks are pretty good.

With that said… I really like the Bilstein B8 Shocks. They do a great job keeping the tires planted.

Springs…
Don’t discount the Hotchkis springs because of the drop. I think your concern is that the Hotchkis springs have more drop in the rear than the front. If so, don’t worry about that. The Hotchkis springs make the car look great, and have slightly more drop at the rear than the Tein S-Tech springs (Hotchkis Sport Suspension 19413 Front Springs have a 9/16” drop and Rear Springs have 3/4 in” drop).

A ¾” drop maintains the suspension geometry so you probably won’t need to add suspension components to align the car. You might not even have to roll the rear fenders, depending upon the wheels and tires you mount.

The Tein S-Tech springs are a little “bouncy,” but that does provide a slightly more comfortable ride. The Hotchkis appear to be linear. That will result in more predictable (some would say better) handling.

Alex Tappin

Yup that is the thread!

Okay awesome. Thanks for you input!definitely helps to have this extra knowledge. You are awesome on these forums! Thank you

Alex Tappin

Yes, my concern with the hotchkis springs were exactly that. There have been a few that don't like it but a lot more are really pleased. I especially like the lower (even though it is like .2 inches less than tein).

I really like the bilstein as well. Although, I think for now I am going to go for the tokico as they are a lot cheaper (unless I can get those koni ones for cheap from my coworker).

Hotchkis or tein springs. I like the fact that the hotchkis appear to be more linear.

Thanks for your input as well Spike. Thanks!

Spike100

You won't go wrong with either Tein or Hotchkis springs.

If you want more comfort (softer ride), go with the Tein S-Tech springs.

If you want better handling (you prefer linear springs) and more drop, go with the Hotchkis springs.

dboyzalter

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Just throwing this out their... How do the tein basis compare with say tokico shocks with springs? Seems to be about the same price and you get a package made for each other... Plus its adjustable even if they dont go any lower then most springs.

Alex Tappin

Awesome. Thanks for more insight!

I also noticed the hotchkis are about 10lbs heavier than the tein springs and about $100 more. Not much of a difference but still a difference.

Im not sure what springs I'll end up with, but I am planning on purchasing this week and will be happy regardless since both have great reviews and are both great springs.

Thanks everyone!

HRMoneyPit

I've actually been looking into Springs and struts to replace my coils. Thus thread helped a lot

Alex Tappin

Awesome! What are you thinking of running?

Steeles

Curious on this as well. i'm actually debating the Swift Spec R springs and a set of shocks or for the price debating if I trust that tein matched the shocks in the basis kit to those springs...

Alex Tappin

Update! Went ahead and purchased the tokico blues, H-O-T-C-H-K-I-S sway and tein springs. Noticed my tires are still feathering pretty bad and have been reading about camber arms. I have been reading stories and people are saying its better to get them as it will help tire wear and such. Any suggestions on what I should buy or what would go good with my setup? Thanks!