Alignment numbers after springs install..not good
05-01-2004, 01:16 PM
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Alignment numbers after springs install..not good
Heres are the numbers from my alignment at Nissan after installing my B&G springs. According to B&G they are a 1" drop. Nissan says there is no adjustment in the front and the rears are now maxed out. Heres the numbers:
Front: Left
Actual Before Specified Range
-1.5* -1.5* -1.3* .2* Camber
8.8* 8.8* 7.4* 8.9* Caster
0.08* -0.04* 0.03* 0.11* Toe
5.7* 5.7* 4.3* 5.8* SAI
4.3* 4.3* 3.0* 6.0* Included Angle Diff.
Front: Right
Actual Before Specified Range
-1.5* -1.5* -1.3* .2* Camber
9.3* 9.3* 7.4* 8.9* Caster
0.09* -0.08* 0.03* 0.11* Toe
5.8* 5.8* 4.3* 5.8* SAI
4.3* 4.3* 3.0* 6.0* Included Angle Diff.
Front
Actual Before Specified Range
0.0* 0.1* -0.8* 0.8* Cross Camber
-0.5* -0.5* -0.8* 0.8* Cross Caster
0.17* -0.12* 0.06* 0.22* Total Toe
Rear: Left
Actual Before Specified Range
-2.0* -2.5* -2.1* -1.1* Camber
0.20* 0.12* 0.01* 0.07* Toe
Rear: Right
Actual Before Specified Range
-2.3* -2.8* -2.1* -1.1* Camber
0.04* 0.18* 0.01* 0.07* Toe
Rear
Actual Before Specified Range
0.25* 0.30* 0.02* 0.14* Total Toe
0.08* -0.03* ************ Thrust Angle
Front: Left
Actual Before Specified Range
-1.5* -1.5* -1.3* .2* Camber
8.8* 8.8* 7.4* 8.9* Caster
0.08* -0.04* 0.03* 0.11* Toe
5.7* 5.7* 4.3* 5.8* SAI
4.3* 4.3* 3.0* 6.0* Included Angle Diff.
Front: Right
Actual Before Specified Range
-1.5* -1.5* -1.3* .2* Camber
9.3* 9.3* 7.4* 8.9* Caster
0.09* -0.08* 0.03* 0.11* Toe
5.8* 5.8* 4.3* 5.8* SAI
4.3* 4.3* 3.0* 6.0* Included Angle Diff.
Front
Actual Before Specified Range
0.0* 0.1* -0.8* 0.8* Cross Camber
-0.5* -0.5* -0.8* 0.8* Cross Caster
0.17* -0.12* 0.06* 0.22* Total Toe
Rear: Left
Actual Before Specified Range
-2.0* -2.5* -2.1* -1.1* Camber
0.20* 0.12* 0.01* 0.07* Toe
Rear: Right
Actual Before Specified Range
-2.3* -2.8* -2.1* -1.1* Camber
0.04* 0.18* 0.01* 0.07* Toe
Rear
Actual Before Specified Range
0.25* 0.30* 0.02* 0.14* Total Toe
0.08* -0.03* ************ Thrust Angle
05-01-2004, 01:59 PM
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Originally posted by spdu4ia
welcome to the "your rear is maxed out" club
hhhmmmmm that didn't come out quite right....
welcome to the "your rear is maxed out" club
hhhmmmmm that didn't come out quite right....
05-01-2004, 03:57 PM
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I want more negitive camber.. im getting front upper control arms and rear camber arms to adjust for more negitive camber....
there is no alignment on the front for camber... and very little on the rear...
I am going to be anouncing a front and rear camber and toe package on Monday...
there is no alignment on the front for camber... and very little on the rear...
I am going to be anouncing a front and rear camber and toe package on Monday...
05-01-2004, 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by Jason@Performance
I want more negitive camber.. im getting front upper control arms and rear camber arms to adjust for more negitive camber....
there is no alignment on the front for camber... and very little on the rear...
I am going to be anouncing a front and rear camber and toe package on Monday...
I want more negitive camber.. im getting front upper control arms and rear camber arms to adjust for more negitive camber....
there is no alignment on the front for camber... and very little on the rear...
I am going to be anouncing a front and rear camber and toe package on Monday...
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05-01-2004, 11:33 PM
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going through tires in 3 months isnt caused by negitive camber... but how you drive...
the inner tire wear is going to be about the same with the camber brought in a little bit...
if you are that worried about inner tire wear.. run more PSI to round out the tire and get more of the middle of the tire closer to the ground...
the inner tire wear is going to be about the same with the camber brought in a little bit...
if you are that worried about inner tire wear.. run more PSI to round out the tire and get more of the middle of the tire closer to the ground...
05-01-2004, 11:37 PM
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Originally posted by Jason@Performance
going through tires in 3 months isnt caused by negitive camber... but how you drive...
the inner tire wear is going to be about the same with the camber brought in a little bit...
if you are that worried about inner tire wear.. run more PSI to round out the tire and get more of the middle of the tire closer to the ground...
going through tires in 3 months isnt caused by negitive camber... but how you drive...
the inner tire wear is going to be about the same with the camber brought in a little bit...
if you are that worried about inner tire wear.. run more PSI to round out the tire and get more of the middle of the tire closer to the ground...
05-03-2004, 03:21 PM
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I am not a tire expert and Jason is more likely to be correct than I. However, think of the negative camber in the rear. When you apply the gas, hard or soft, the inner tire is going to take most of the force. As such, it will wear out faster. The outer edge has the least force on it and hence will wear out slower. Furthermore, extreme negative camber in the rear will affect your grip under hard acceleration. However, it is a trade off. Negative camber can be great for cornering, even in the rear. However, it degrades acceleration performance (in the rear) and braking (in the front). Just something to consider. Personally, if I were to drop my car (and I will), I would get adjustable arms if the alignment were far out of spec. Slightly out? I would wait and see.
12-06-2004, 01:12 PM
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I am getting some B & G, I currently have H Tech, I will have to say, they suck. Why not just stay with Stock if you are thinking H tech. Terrible, too bouncy. worse than OEM
12-06-2004, 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by jchen1020
Does anyone know about How far off alignment issue would be if installed with B&G. Is it more than -2 degrees in camber?
Does anyone know about How far off alignment issue would be if installed with B&G. Is it more than -2 degrees in camber?
12-06-2004, 01:34 PM
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Also have to say, I tried out Hyper Max by HKS, That is THE BEST money can buy. Again, Money. Smooth ride, Corners Ridiculously good. I can't help wanting it. I even tried Tein coilovers. No comparison. I have Bilstein shocks, nice shocks. But H tech sucks. I hope this B&G makes me happy. It still won't be HKS
12-06-2004, 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by MIAPLAYA
I'm going to be honest I dont remember but I dont think it was over -2. Lets just say that after about 7-8k miles with these springs and no camber adjustment up front you will need new tires.
I'm going to be honest I dont remember but I dont think it was over -2. Lets just say that after about 7-8k miles with these springs and no camber adjustment up front you will need new tires.
Do you like B&G that much?