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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 09:53 PM
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My Titan is about 3 months old from build date, is it ok to wax it?

I'm busting at the seams to get some Zaino on it, even have some Z8 waiting.
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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You can start the Zaino process the day you drove it home from the stealership, I mean dealership!

Ensure you wash with Dawn and claybar before you begin the Zaino process. GL!
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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Ah, I've always heard that waiting a while before you wax it paint rumor but never known if it was true.

Thanks.

P.S. - You're talking to a Zaino veteran, Z had 51 coats on it when she went bye bye.
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Supposedly, in the "old days", yes you needed to wait before waxing a car. With the modern paints and painting processes, it no longer necessary.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DavesZ#3
Supposedly, in the "old days", yes you needed to wait before waxing a car. With the modern paints and painting processes, it no longer necessary.
Not true. If it comes from the factory you can wax/seal it the day you bring it home. The factories use a very high heat to bake the paint on and it is cure the minute it leaves. A body shop does not have this available to them so if you have your car painted wait 2-3 months or the paint will never cure properly and you will have super soft paint.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Danase
Not true. If it comes from the factory you can wax/seal it the day you bring it home. The factories use a very high heat to bake the paint on and it is cure the minute it leaves. A body shop does not have this available to them so if you have your car painted wait 2-3 months or the paint will never cure properly and you will have super soft paint.
Actually there are body shops that DO bake the finish. The paint DOES NOT need 2-3 months to cure and if you wait that long to put something on it, it will already have stains and imperfections that will never come out.
Bugs and bird crap stain protected finishes.....it will permanently eat up one with nothing on it.

Wait a week or two.....and then seal it.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 04:06 AM
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The body shops "baking" system is NOWHERE near the heat that they put on it at the factory. I used to use them, I know. If you want super soft clear coat go right ahead and put on a wax or sealant in the first two weeks after a paint job.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Danase
Not true. If it comes from the factory you can wax/seal it the day you bring it home. The factories use a very high heat to bake the paint on and it is cure the minute it leaves. A body shop does not have this available to them so if you have your car painted wait 2-3 months or the paint will never cure properly and you will have super soft paint.
Read my statement again - back in the "old days" you had to wait. Modern paint = no wait (i.e. it's okay to do it now, today, etc.)
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DavesZ#3
Read my statement again - back in the "old days" you had to wait. Modern paint = no wait (i.e. it's okay to do it now, today, etc.)
But you are wrong, way wrong! I have seen "modern" paint not cure properly and stya super soft the entire life of the car because the owner waxed or sealed it within the first week or two. I don't mean to sound like a jerk. I will ry and find some of my information from House of Kolor, Du Pont, and PPG.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 06:21 AM
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Here is one from Meguiar's:
So, you just got a new car or truck--or maybe you just had your baby repainted. The question is: How long should you wait before waxing it for the first time?
"A new car that has a factory paint job can be waxed the moment it is rolled out of the plant," according to Meguiar's (Dept. ETD, 17991 Mitchell S., Irvine, CA 92614, 800-347-5700, www.meguiars.com), which offers a wide range of car care products for use by hand or with a buffer. "Cars that have factory paint jobs are cured at much higher temperatures, because the car goes through the paint booth without the rubber, plastic and cloth components. This means the paint is cured by the time the car is completed.
"Aftermarket paint finishes, however, are cured at a much lower temperature to ensure the booth doesn't melt nonmetal components. In this case, allow for a 2- to 3-month curing process before your first wax application."
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 06:23 AM
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Here is something from the House of Kolor / Valspar:
You will want to allow about 6 weeks before waxing
John Hall
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Valspar Corp.
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Dude, read it all again. You and I are in total agreement.

I say again, "no wait (i.e. it's okay to do it now, today, etc.)"
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DavesZ#3
Dude, read it all again. You and I are in total agreement.

I say again, "no wait (i.e. it's okay to do it now, today, etc.)"

Dude, YOU neeed to read it again. He is not agreeing with you. What he is saying is that you do have to wait. You stated and im quoting you

"Supposedly, in the "old days", yes you needed to wait before waxing a car. With the modern paints and painting processes, it no longer necessary."

That is not true, unless its coming from the factory. Your statement is false because "modern" paints still require a cure time of 2 months. The only difference is that if it comes from the factory, they use a big oven to bake the paint almost like a powder coat process. And your statement is saying any "modern" paint is ok to start waxing right away.

**CLIFF NOTES**

Factory Paint Start waxing when you get home
Aftermarket wait 2 months regardless of "modern" or newer "painting process"
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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New Titan truck. Paint baked to cure at factory. 3 months from build date.

We are all in agreement that he can immediately wax it. What part of this are we not agreeing on????

Note - we're not talking about somebody getting their truck painted at the corner garage. The subject from the first post was about waxing a new vehicle. Danase followed up with info from Meguires that supports my and his own supposition - it's OKAY to wax a new factory paint job. My use of the term "modern paint" had nothing to do with a repaint job, etc.

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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DavesZ#3
New Titan truck. Paint baked to cure at factory. 3 months from build date.

We are all in agreement that he can immediately wax it. What part of this are we not agreeing on????

Note - we're not talking about somebody getting their truck painted at the corner garage. The subject from the first post was about waxing a new vehicle. Danase followed up with info from Meguires that supports my and his own supposition - it's OKAY to wax a new factory paint job. My use of the term "modern paint" had nothing to do with a repaint job, etc.
Well, when you use words like "modern paint" you are generalizing ALL paint that is up to date. Which has nothing to do if its done from factory or joe blow's paint shop. The reason why factory paint jobs can be waxed when you bring your car home is because of the baking process. It has nothing to do with the actual paint itself. That's why their was this disagreement, anyhow wax the titan
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