Which one would you use on your new Z

1: Blackfire
2: 3m products
3: Mothers products
4: Meguire products
or 5: Pinnacle
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Based on these O N L Y, Which one ?
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***ettabot Zaino,Zymol, or whatever.. Don't wanna hear about it, don't care.. Just want opinoins on the above items I listed...Please ( Dr. Bronze should stay out of this one, for I am turning to the Dark side of the force !

 

Used No 4. for 4 years and found it worked well. I always used a 3 or 4 step process but never gave me the same results as AutoGlym

 

Your post is very ironic probably just to me, as Sal Zaino (being Italian) uses the phrase Forgettaboutit all the time when I talk to him on the phone, he is also found of saying "notfonuthin" and it is also ironic that you are located in NYC which is the location that Zaino polish is MADE.

I kinda think you are getting the cart before the horse, just about all of these companies offer 2 or 3 kinds of waxes and cleaners and systems. So no one can say I use Meguiars wax, because Meguairs makes about 7 or 8 different kinds of wax and has three complete separate steps or system polishes and waxes.

What it all boils down to is whether:

A: You want to use a carnauba wax

or

B: You want to use a synthetic product

with sub headings of:

Aa: You want to use a CLEANER carnauba product or a carnauba that contains zero cleaners.

or

Bb: You want to use a CLEANER synthetic product or a synthetic that contains zero cleaners.

BTW, Zymol is a Turtle wax product, they own the name and Zymol is all carnauba waxes, they make about 10 versions. Zaino is 100% synthetic polymer based.

To answer your question as you have it stated, my choice would be 3M.

 

After trying almost all of the product lines you mention, Blackfire has gotten the results I like. As has been stated before, red/black and dark colors work especially well with Blackfire.

I continue to be impressed with the glow and durability of Blackfire on my Redline track model.

 

I've been reading the comments about Zaino too and I'm a little afraid of trying it for some reason. Maybe some of the comments about it just working on paint. I'm not a fanatic either but I want the vehicle to look good.

My dealer recommended I buy the Zymol package but I’ve been waiting and reading the comments on several Z forums.

I too have a Redline. Can I purchase Blackfire online?

 

http://www.properautocare.com/blaccarcarki.html

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There ya go, have fun ! Good luck !

 

I am really confused on what you mean there, what do you mean about "just" on paint. (look at my signature, that is why I would like to know)

 

I'm going to try it. Let you know how it works out.

It's too cold here now. So I'll order it and put it on when we catch a few warmer days.

Thanks again.

 

Other posts I've read in different threads (and maybe different 350 forums) have stated that Zaino must be applied to the paint. As you may be able to tell, I'm a little new at this and have always used carnauba waxes that I would just apply after washing.

So, after reading the other posts I was concerned that I would somehow need to remove the carnauba wax that looks like was apply by my dealer (don't know for sure).

Afte visiting the Blackfire site I now understand the same is required of that product.

Can I now assume that Zaino and Blackfire are similar products developed to achieve the same results?

 

Usually with any kind of synthetic like Zaino you can not (it will not stick) apply it on top of an oil like is contained in carnauba wax.

I can assure you Zaino and Blackfire are nothing alike. Zaino is not a cleaner type product, we do not have cleaners in our polishes, we use the Z-18 Clay Bar for that.

 

I guess I'll have to do a little more studing before trying anything. I was hoping it wouldn't be this difficult.

Since the dealership recommended Zymol, I guess I better take a look at that product too.

 

Man ! I didn't thnk this was gonna turn out to be a big pissing match !!
I guess everybody is gonna have a different opinion no matter what, but these Zaino freaks are way outta control w/ there product.. That's why I posted that I didn't wanna hear about it.. Can't we discuss other products? Man oh man, no offense Zaino people, but please give it rest ! I'm tryin to get other opinions about OTHER products !

 

Out of your list, I've only used products out of the 3M and Meguiars product lines. They were both fine for shine, but didn't last very long between waxes. Most of the ones I used were more work to apply and remove than some of the others.

If I was only going to pick on your list, I'd say Blackfire. From all I've heard, it is comparable in performance to Zaino, and possibly slightly shinier. I wouldn't mind giving it a try to compare the two. It comes highly recommended.

I'm not sure why you are so anti-Zaino if you haven't tried it, though. It is also worthy of consideration. I have used a lot of products over the years, and this is some of the easiest to work with and longest lasting protectant I've applied.

I also don't see what "pissing match" you are referring to. Just because somebody brings up an additional worthy product that you didn't tell why you didn't want included, you get mad?

 

My questions and comments should not be confused as a “pissing match”.

All that happened was... I went out to the Blackfire site, did a little more searching on the web, saw a product comparison on Zaino, Meguire and others that didn’t include Blackfire, which is what I was trying to compare. Then the Zaino Distributor adds a helping hand and answers a few questions and puts a few more questions in my mind.

So, in my last post I mentioned that more work (on my part) was required before I made a decision on the product I would use on my vehicle.

That’s it! No, pissing match intended.

 

Hi there,

All of your choices are good. For those who know me I'm a big fan of Blackfire. I have been using Zanio products for a long time. My sole reason for turning people towards different products (not necessarily Blackfire) is because of Zanio's false information. I have no connection to anybody in this business besides talking to sales rep which any of you can do. I even asked CMA's opinion on Zanio and they tell you it's a good product. Maybe I'm a dork for spending time on the phone with these people but I want to make sure any product I choose will not only be a good quality product but if I need help I have someone knownledgable to talk to.

That being said...

It's up to you. I would honestly starting calling some people up. When I call someone I ask to speak with someone who has knownledge about products. I found out a lot of times when you call up companies that you get the sales people who can just take orders (this is one thing I don't like from CMA, great products but limited on staff who can actually help you out).

 

False information? umm.. not from me. If you call me or email me I can assure you I am an expert in my product line.

Thanks
Kevin

 

I fealt the same way so I bought some Blackfire Quick Detail and it is great and easy! I havent decided what to do when it comes waxing time yet.

 

Not seeing or using any of the products makes it tough to decide which to use. There’s a comparison chart on a www site I visited the other day but they wanted $14.95 o download it. It compares 40+ products. Not sure I need that much (more) information since I’m only looking and two (or possibly three including Zymol).

Can anyone give me comparison details on Blackfire vs Zaino?

 

The test you are referring to is called The Wax Test as seen at http://www.gurureports.org/ It is well know what Zaino placed first overall on gloss and durability (their two most important standards) It is a very good report, well worth the 15 bucks.

Just for fun, click on http://www.gurureports.org/ and click on the left where it says "Take our Wax Poll" and then vote for your favorite and then review the results and scroll down to the bottom where Zaino is listed and see how many votes Zaino gets.

 

I'm sorry but this is my opinion. The FAWK with the gurureport. Kevin, whoope **** that zanio came in first. Steve is a moron, I faught with him on countless times about his experiments. He has cause so much **** in the past with other companies that no wonder Zanio came in first. The gurureport is based on politics (i.e. whoever throughs the most money at him, HE'S A CONARTIST!)

This is getting out of hand, where are the moderators when you need them. This is why I also hate most forums because all you hear is ZANIO, ZANIO, ZANIO. What, does zanio run all the forums??? I know meguiar's, cma, eagle one, p21s, 3m moderates forums time to time but why don't you see them out hear.

Kev, the only reason your out here is to sell zanio and make a living. I thought you were not allowed to sell or advertise on forums. I'm not sure it's you everytime but I have a few other forums I like to browse and all I hear is Zanio & and the people who sell Zanio. Also while I'm on my rant, who cares if someone doesn't want to hear about Zanio. I DON'T EITHER!

For everyone else who's reading this. Detailing is for your enjoyment and nothing more. You want a wax test, start commucating with others and trying products out for yourself. Don't believe some stupid wax test. If I had enough money I would give everyone there $14.95 back who purchased it. Steve made over $175,000 on the gurureport last year. I have some better reading material the forums. AND IT'S FREE!!!