New Liquid Clay Bar
I had a post about this somewhere else, but I can’t find it, so I’ll just restate it.
I’ve never used a liquid clay bar, but I am extremely suspicious of the whole idea and have to believe that it’s nothing more than a gimmick. As I understand it, the whole purpose of an actual clay bar is to remove imperfections from your car (brake dust, overspray, road grit that got lodged in the clear, whatever) before you wax. Obviously the purpose of this is to prevent these little things from breaking loose during the polish/wax process and introducing new swirls and scratches. The clay bar does this so well because it’s a malleable but sticky substance. When you rub it over the car the little imperfections get stuck in the clay and are lifted from your paint. I can’t see any way that a liquid could do the same thing that an actual clay bar does unless the liquid is extremely viscous and sticky (in which case you really don’t want it on your car in the first place). And even if that were the case (and I know from the commercials that it’s not) you’d have to use a ton of towels to do the car because there’s no way to fold a liquid and expose clean parts that don’t have debris lodged in it like you can with an actual clay bar. Again, I’m not sure what this stuff really is, looks like it’s some kind of wash/wax combo or something, but it’s not a clay bar, and I wouldn’t dare use it in place of one for fear of introducing swirls and scratches during the step most important to preventing them.
I’ve never used a liquid clay bar, but I am extremely suspicious of the whole idea and have to believe that it’s nothing more than a gimmick. As I understand it, the whole purpose of an actual clay bar is to remove imperfections from your car (brake dust, overspray, road grit that got lodged in the clear, whatever) before you wax. Obviously the purpose of this is to prevent these little things from breaking loose during the polish/wax process and introducing new swirls and scratches. The clay bar does this so well because it’s a malleable but sticky substance. When you rub it over the car the little imperfections get stuck in the clay and are lifted from your paint. I can’t see any way that a liquid could do the same thing that an actual clay bar does unless the liquid is extremely viscous and sticky (in which case you really don’t want it on your car in the first place). And even if that were the case (and I know from the commercials that it’s not) you’d have to use a ton of towels to do the car because there’s no way to fold a liquid and expose clean parts that don’t have debris lodged in it like you can with an actual clay bar. Again, I’m not sure what this stuff really is, looks like it’s some kind of wash/wax combo or something, but it’s not a clay bar, and I wouldn’t dare use it in place of one for fear of introducing swirls and scratches during the step most important to preventing them.
Originally Posted by ARCGuy
I had a post about this somewhere else, but I can’t find it, so I’ll just restate it.
I’ve never used a liquid clay bar, but I am extremely suspicious of the whole idea and have to believe that it’s nothing more than a gimmick. As I understand it, the whole purpose of an actual clay bar is to remove imperfections from your car (brake dust, overspray, road grit that got lodged in the clear, whatever) before you wax. Obviously the purpose of this is to prevent these little things from breaking loose during the polish/wax process and introducing new swirls and scratches. The clay bar does this so well because it’s a malleable but sticky substance. When you rub it over the car the little imperfections get stuck in the clay and are lifted from your paint. I can’t see any way that a liquid could do the same thing that an actual clay bar does unless the liquid is extremely viscous and sticky (in which case you really don’t want it on your car in the first place). And even if that were the case (and I know from the commercials that it’s not) you’d have to use a ton of towels to do the car because there’s no way to fold a liquid and expose clean parts that don’t have debris lodged in it like you can with an actual clay bar. Again, I’m not sure what this stuff really is, looks like it’s some kind of wash/wax combo or something, but it’s not a clay bar, and I wouldn’t dare use it in place of one for fear of introducing swirls and scratches during the step most important to preventing them.
I’ve never used a liquid clay bar, but I am extremely suspicious of the whole idea and have to believe that it’s nothing more than a gimmick. As I understand it, the whole purpose of an actual clay bar is to remove imperfections from your car (brake dust, overspray, road grit that got lodged in the clear, whatever) before you wax. Obviously the purpose of this is to prevent these little things from breaking loose during the polish/wax process and introducing new swirls and scratches. The clay bar does this so well because it’s a malleable but sticky substance. When you rub it over the car the little imperfections get stuck in the clay and are lifted from your paint. I can’t see any way that a liquid could do the same thing that an actual clay bar does unless the liquid is extremely viscous and sticky (in which case you really don’t want it on your car in the first place). And even if that were the case (and I know from the commercials that it’s not) you’d have to use a ton of towels to do the car because there’s no way to fold a liquid and expose clean parts that don’t have debris lodged in it like you can with an actual clay bar. Again, I’m not sure what this stuff really is, looks like it’s some kind of wash/wax combo or something, but it’s not a clay bar, and I wouldn’t dare use it in place of one for fear of introducing swirls and scratches during the step most important to preventing them.
I think the applicator thing they include acts like a microfiber towel and the debree gets caught up in that and doesn't drag debree all over the paint, which probably means you have to constantly clean out the applicator as you clay (sponge) the car.
I have yet to claybar mine but think I would go with the old claybar standby.
I don't know how good the product works but from my own experience the potency of a product usually isn't as good when put into a liquid form. Liquid may work but its for the lazy I'll keep breaking my back until proven wrong.
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i have used it, and for all you non believers it works! AMAZING! just make sure you do a polish after to really bring out the potential! all in all i highly recommend it!
Originally Posted by redlude97
why switch? Regular claybars work well already and are pretty idiot proof. Why mess with a good thing?
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Nothing better than reg clay bar. I must disagree with idiot proof though.
Originally Posted by redlude97
why switch? Regular claybars work well already and are pretty idiot proof. Why mess with a good thing?
on autopia most ppl have said that it is just a polisher. not really a replacement for claybar more of a polish. check it out. personally i wanted to believe the hype but i rather stick to the proven regular claybar.
Originally Posted by Aced16
i have used it, and for all you non believers it works! AMAZING! just make sure you do a polish after to really bring out the potential! all in all i highly recommend it!
I have had white paint misted on my G35 [ silver ] Dried for two or three days in the sun before I noticed it . I used a claybar and it barely came off . I just dont see a liquid being that good .
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Originally Posted by 350Z84
How messy is it? Would you say it took any less time that regular claybar methods?
Originally Posted by redlude97
why switch? Regular claybars work well already and are pretty idiot proof. Why mess with a good thing?
Folks, that product is just a cleaner wax, no different that any other variety out there. Its name is just a marketing gimmick to attract customers who consider something as simple as claying to be a difficult process.
A liquid, no matter what kind it might be, CANNOT replicate the results of a clay bar. Its very composition is its downfall; liquids cannot make a strong-enough contact with paint to remove stubborn contamination that one needs a clay for in the first place.
Don't waste your time or money; buy a real clay bar. You might be surprised at its remarkable ease of use.
A liquid, no matter what kind it might be, CANNOT replicate the results of a clay bar. Its very composition is its downfall; liquids cannot make a strong-enough contact with paint to remove stubborn contamination that one needs a clay for in the first place.
Don't waste your time or money; buy a real clay bar. You might be surprised at its remarkable ease of use.
Originally Posted by booger
I have had white paint misted on my G35 [ silver ] Dried for two or three days in the sun before I noticed it . I used a claybar and it barely came off . I just dont see a liquid being that good .
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