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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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I ran the 60' time listed in my sig on nearly bald stock tires, and cut even lower than that on another run that same night. So it's not the tires.
not here to argue and what is that 4 hundreths of a second difference. like i said id rather stock wheels and tires for the track, they would do much better, my tires are getting down too thank god, will be changed for some good ones.
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by tylerxfire
my numbers are all on unprepped track and think they are pretty good, for what it is, also i am pulling consistent 2.1's with my tires and pulling 101 consistently, i am pretty sure thats right where i should be, so all the talk about experience is going nowhere, i have ran the car about 12 passes and now pull just about the exact same time every time i run, i am going back for one more time tomorrow and will get about 5 runs and then will be done for the season and will have better tires next year. and i have previously had two other cars and i have built and tracked, its not like i am some newbie to the track as you seem to think everyone but yourself is, sorry but thats how you come off, like almighty track man. advise is good but too much stressing on the things that are known are not. I am pretty sure it is impossible to get better than a 2.1 60ft. with these tires, if i launch any higher i get wheel hop and any lower bogs down, im feathering out at 2900 rpm it won't hold anymore without spinning and hopping.
Ok, buddy. My numbers come from an unprepped track too, but we also have worse DA than you probably have.

With only 12 passes, you think you're all that. I was only giving you some adviCe (adviSe is a verb) so you can learn the ins and outs. If you don't want to accept my advice, thinking you're all that, go right ahead. Many people think they're the **** all the time, so I understand.

You saying you're good with a 2.1 and being consistent with a 2.1 already shows your immaturity in this field and lack of knowledge. You go right ahead, though. Others like ex2cina, gooey, veetec, peak350, warmmilk, etc must be blessed with ridiculously sticky tires and amazing DAs all the time.

I'm a mediocre drag racer at best who does it for fun and my average times reflect that. But, I do know that certain things must be done in order to achieve maximum results, both in knowledge and E.T.


BTW, "newbie," you didn't even know what to look for in slicks and I had to help your *** out. In fact, in one of the threads, you asked EXACTLY what I asked another seller for another set, not to mention you bumping my almost year old FS thread to ask me questions about it. You ARE a noob. Accept it and learn when others try to give you helpful advice. I consider myself a noob still. Imagine where you stand.

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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
Ok, buddy. My numbers come from an unprepped track too, but we also have worse DA than you probably have.

With only 12 passes, you think you're all that. I was only giving you some adviCe (adviSe is a verb) so you can learn the ins and outs. If you don't want to accept my advice, thinking you're all that, go right ahead. Many people think they're the **** all the time, so I understand.

You saying you're good with a 2.1 and being consistent with a 2.1 already shows your immaturity in this field and lack of knowledge. You go right ahead, though. Others like ex2cina, gooey, veetec, peak350, warmmilk, etc must be blessed with ridiculously sticky tires and amazing DAs all the time.

I'm a mediocre drag racer at best who does it for fun and my average times reflect that. But, I do know that certain things must be done in order to achieve maximum results, both in knowledge and E.T.


BTW, "newbie," you didn't even know what to look for in slicks and I had to help your *** out. In fact, in one of the threads, you asked EXACTLY what I asked another seller for another set, not to mention you bumping my almost year old FS thread to ask me questions about it. You ARE a noob. Accept it and learn when others try to give you helpful advice. I consider myself a noob still. Imagine where you stand.

dude calm down. You're an admin. Present yourself as such my friend
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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Being an admin doesn't take away my rights to my own opinion. He was getting defensive when I was just giving him advice from my experiences (more than 12 passes) on LEARNING how to become better. I am a firm believer in "what goes around, comes around." I'm not one to sit around and cater to everybody's needs at all times because I have the title of being an admin. I help around the site, but I'm still a regular member at the same time like all others.

HOWEVER, I will take note of your suggestion and stop with my defensive replies.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 10:38 AM
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so why isn't SP's 140 mph pass on here?
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 10:49 AM
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not being cocky or thinking im all that whatsoever, especially with 12 passes, but am saying that i think i am holding my own as a newb. consistent 2.1's isn't bad in my book, and with these tires and trac conditions, like i said i really don't see it getting any better. I do it for fun and nothing else, and like i said not here to argue. I see some people on here pulling 1.9's and around there on slicks and radials, so idk. and because i asked a question to you about what slicks i should go with, hmm, thats kinda doing some research but guess that puts you on top knowing what slicks are a good setup.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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Not reading through all of that but the 2.1 60's are not bad. A little more practice on street will get you 2.0's I beleive even if you have to adjust to the crappy track.. I get 2.0's consistantly on my street tires. The time on the list for me I just so happen to hit a 2.1 because I tried to launch harder and some how it ended up the best run of the day. Either way pulling consistant 2.1's are good and switching tires at this point isnt bad IMO.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DanielW
so why isn't SP's 140 mph pass on here?
Do you have a link to the time slip?
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not being cocky or thinking im all that whatsoever, especially with 12 passes, but am saying that i think i am holding my own as a newb. consistent 2.1's isn't bad in my book, and with these tires and trac conditions, like i said i really don't see it getting any better. I do it for fun and nothing else, and like i said not here to argue. I see some people on here pulling 1.9's and around there on slicks and radials, so idk. and because i asked a question to you about what slicks i should go with, hmm, thats kinda doing some research but guess that puts you on top knowing what slicks are a good setup.
2.1 isn't bad, but there is room for improvement. 2.0s are possible on bald street tires. What you learn from being able to hit consistent 2.0s is the ability to adjust to the track and weather conditions. Slicks will make things easy for you and will help with consistency, but street tires makes you learn how to adjust your methods for better results than slicks will. Like I said, if you think you're ready then go ahead, but taking it slow and learning all of the processes isn't a bad idea, neither.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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i hear ya, well tonight it was very busy so only got three runs but first one was 13.9 with a 2.2 60ft. basically testing the track out with a easy pass, next pass was a 13.8 with a 2.1 60ft. at 101 and third was a 13.7 at 101with a 2.0 60ft., wanted another run but they closed the lanes down, there is another date the 4th of october for test and tune, and i might run the slicks. finally pulled a 2.0 60ft. tonight and it was feathering it out right at 3,000 rpm, any higher and i get wheel hop.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by tylerxfire
i hear ya, well tonight it was very busy so only got three runs but first one was 13.9 with a 2.2 60ft. basically testing the track out with a easy pass, next pass was a 13.8 with a 2.1 60ft. at 101 and third was a 13.7 at 101with a 2.0 60ft., wanted another run but they closed the lanes down, there is another date the 4th of october for test and tune, and i might run the slicks. finally pulled a 2.0 60ft. tonight and it was feathering it out right at 3,000 rpm, any higher and i get wheel hop.
Told ya it wasn't the tires preventing 2.0 60'.

But new tires will still help.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 09:24 PM
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yeah, i let the pressure out of the tires tonight down to 15psi and it helped. yes new tires will help, i know its good for little more though still on these tires so i might not change them out yet. i believe saturday when i go the track will be prepped though, so makes me wanna bring the good tires even more.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tylerxfire
yeah, i let the pressure out of the tires tonight down to 15psi and it helped. yes new tires will help, i know its good for little more though still on these tires so i might not change them out yet. i believe saturday when i go the track will be prepped though, so makes me wanna bring the good tires even more.
I'm goin tomorrow to see if I can do better. I haven't been to the track since buying new tires and I want to see if I can improve my time. I've only ran two different nights so far and both nights were on the worn tires. I'd like to get a 1.9 60' and see where that puts me. I'm shooting for a 13.3. I dunno if I can get any better than that or not since I'm in a Touring model which weighs like 100 pounds more than the Base/Enthusiast models.
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Originally Posted by tylerxfire
yeah, i let the pressure out of the tires tonight down to 15psi and it helped. yes new tires will help, i know its good for little more though still on these tires so i might not change them out yet. i believe saturday when i go the track will be prepped though, so makes me wanna bring the good tires even more.


You do realize that on street tires, you took out waaaay too much air, right? If you lower the pressure that much or any more than 5 psi from its recommended psi, you'll experience cupping. That basically means you were only gripping with the outsides of your tires. That also means you just wasted the outside treads; I hate that for some reason.

This is what I meant by learning.

Slicks and DRs are what you want to lower the psi of to 15. Next time, for max results, let out only a little from the rear and fill up the fronts to like 40 psi. Try that and see how it goes.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 05:10 AM
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^^^ thats good advice ^^^
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^^^ thats good advice ^^^
Yes, I agree with 3hree5ive0ero, but I run about 26# (hot) on street tires. This is less than he suggested, but that is my sweet spot. Each brand/type of street tire is different, so find the best tire pressure for your tire and track conditions. I also burnout before the race which is not recommended for street tires, but it works for me. Pilot Sports get stickier when they get hot. 1.9 60' has never been a problem for me on street tires even when my 03 Touring was totally stock. More than likely the wheel hop you experienced was cuz of the 15# tire pressure.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tylerxfire
yeah, i let the pressure out of the tires tonight down to 15psi and it helped. yes new tires will help, i know its good for little more though still on these tires so i might not change them out yet. i believe saturday when i go the track will be prepped though, so makes me wanna bring the good tires even more.
Nice run man. I usually dont mess with my tire pressure at all. I know the last time I did my times got worse so I'll wait till I get DR's to mess with it again.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 07:50 AM
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Somewhere around the 28psi was what alot of guys were running. I run anywhere from 11-15psi on my DR's
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 07:55 AM
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my fronts were 40psi, and the rears were 19psi, thought posted 15 but have no idea why, must have been tired, the sidewall on my tires are so strong you could not even tell or feel any air was let out, that is why i brought it down to that, the previous weeks i was running 25psi in the rears and 40 in the fronts and did better last night.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 07:57 AM
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id say that 07 with 1.9 60ft. should be able to get 13.3., yeah basically playing around with tire pressure, and seemed to help till i launched higher then i got the wheel hop, but i did pull 2.0 with that pressure and no wheel hop with just little spinning off the line when i feathered it out from 3k.
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A little spinning is not a bad thing in my mind. More than a little is. The little spinning elimates the wheel hop.
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