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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 04:47 PM
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Default Drag radials or ET Streets on a base?

I dont know if this is a valid question, but I was curious to know how DRs or sumthin like et streets would perform on a car with no LSD. Im looking to improve traction on my launch but Im not really sure how it will all work together. Experienced racers please chime in.
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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I see no direct relationship between LSD, no LSD and 60-foot times. Look at 300 horsepower American muscle drag races. Many have a solid rear axle.

That said, I would work on consistent 2.0 second 60-foot times before trying either.
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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+1...dr first if u do try anything.....dont wanna break ****....
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 06:38 AM
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I see no direct relationship between LSD, no LSD and 60-foot times. Look at 300 horsepower American muscle drag races. Many have a solid rear axle.

That said, I would work on consistent 2.0 second 60-foot times before trying either.
That was my original intention, but I was just curious to know if the 1 wheel spinning would have any bearing with a very sticky tire. Even solid rear axle muscle cars are spinning both wheels. I also seem to have went through the stock tires pretty fast which I imagine would be partially because of the many burnouts Ive done. Just thinkin about somethin for track use only.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by davidv
I see no direct relationship between LSD, no LSD and 60-foot times. Look at 300 horsepower American muscle drag races. Many have a solid rear axle.

That said, I would work on consistent 2.0 second 60-foot times before trying either.
LSD = Limited Slip Diff correct???? (making sure you are not talking about something different here)

I don't get what you meant by "Look at 300 horsepower American muscle drag races. Many have a solid rear axle." as solid rear axles come in either open diff (non LSD), or posi of some form (lsd). Can you clarify what you mean?

In a solid rear axle a car without LSD (Posi) any attempt at ripping off the line with a 300hp setup is usually met with a one tire fire and a horrible 60ft...

Honestly you won't find anyone with a solid axle running open diffs that has a clue.

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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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You can try out my DR's this season Russ.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 11:18 AM
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I have a base but I installed a VLSD a year ago.

With the open diff., I would hit 2.0-2.1 on street tires and 1.8-1.9 on 246/60/15 Hoosier DR's(these numbers are N/A only).

When I did install the VLSD I would pull 1.7's(150shot) with the 245/60/15 Hoosiers but switched to 275/60/15 MT Street DR's(true radial) and cut 1.6's(150shot)

I did hit a few 1.59's with the MT Street DR's(boost+NO2)

In conclusion, DR's do help with open diff. no matter what power you put down. Hell, sometimes my VLSD peg-legs anyway!

IMO, DR's+open diff. > Street tires+LSD!
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Originally Posted by Gooey
You can try out my DR's this season Russ.
Sounds good man!!!
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Originally Posted by one350zfan
I have a base but I installed a VLSD a year ago.

With the open diff., I would hit 2.0-2.1 on street tires and 1.8-1.9 on 246/60/15 Hoosier DR's(these numbers are N/A only).

When I did install the VLSD I would pull 1.7's(150shot) with the 245/60/15 Hoosiers but switched to 275/60/15 MT Street DR's(true radial) and cut 1.6's(150shot)

I did hit a few 1.59's with the MT Street DR's(boost+NO2)

In conclusion, DR's do help with open diff. no matter what power you put down. Hell, sometimes my VLSD peg-legs anyway!

IMO, DR's+open diff. > Street tires+LSD!
Thats good to hear as well. Its always fun prestaging doing a one tire burnout!!!
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Originally Posted by rkemp1
That was my original intention, but I was just curious to know if the 1 wheel spinning would have any bearing with a very sticky tire. Even solid rear axle muscle cars are spinning both wheels. I also seem to have went through the stock tires pretty fast which I imagine would be partially because of the many burnouts Ive done. Just thinkin about somethin for track use only.
Are you doing a full burn-out with street tires? You can try the MT ET Street Drags or ET Street Radials - both of which can be driven to the track on if necessary.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 01:05 PM
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Are you doing a full burn-out with street tires? You can try the MT ET Street Drags or ET Street Radials - both of which can be driven to the track on if necessary.
No i just do a short burnout to clean off the rocks and debris on my tires and never in the water box. just past the water box is where i do it.
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Originally Posted by rkemp1
Its always fun prestaging doing a one tire burnout!!!
Hell, sometimes one very hot tire will get it done!

My fastest time with an open diff was 12.5 @ 11? w/ a 1.7 60'

That was with a utec, 125 shot, 245/60 DR's... Probably putting down 315hp/350trq.

Tire>vlsd
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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Jay....Haven't seen you on the list yet for TR on the 9th.Whats up...

Sorry OP..back OT
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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Jay....Haven't seen you on the list yet for TR on the 9th.Whats up...

Sorry OP..back OT
No prob, nuthin like a little inconspicuous callout. lmao!
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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I had good results with the MT DR's on my 04.

You have to do two small burnouts though, as one tire will heat up more than the other, but once it's sticky, the other will heat up better. 1.8's were easy with good track prep, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a 1.7 with them.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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Here is a video with the MT DR's.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mH8K8cxhcEY
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by VeeTec
I had good results with the MT DR's on my 04.

You have to do two small burnouts though, as one tire will heat up more than the other, but once it's sticky, the other will heat up better. 1.8's were easy with good track prep, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a 1.7 with them.
Thanks for the info. I would have never thought to do two burnouts. And thanks for the video to have as reference.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by coachk
Jay....Haven't seen you on the list yet for TR on the 9th.Whats up...

Sorry OP..back OT
I payed, list must not be updated!
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Originally Posted by VeeTec
I had good results with the MT DR's on my 04.

You have to do two small burnouts though, as one tire will heat up more than the other, but once it's sticky, the other will heat up better. 1.8's were easy with good track prep, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a 1.7 with them.
Why not do a regular (single) burn out? I think the two, even 3 like in your vid, is kind of silly (looking).
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by scotts300
Why not do a regular (single) burn out? I think the two, even 3 like in your vid, is kind of silly (looking).
With open differential, one quick burn out only really heats up one tire. Two, will usually assure the other tire heats up, as the one side is biting now.
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