Yes, you can turn one direction fast, but can you make transitions (like a set of sharp S's easily with a lot of stability? Thats what I was talking about.

Maybe I just suck at riding dirt bikes, but thats always what I fought, there was a feeling of instability for me when I had to switch from a left to a right really fast.

 

Gixxer 1000?

 

yup.. here is a picture of the 05 next to my 07.. its the yellow/black



here is a picture of the 03 CBR 600RR



here is another shot of the 05 1000.. next to the two light riders on their kawi's.. also my cousin with his R6 (RIP).. the bike infront is my 02 GSX-R 600.. that had a built 1070 motor with 180 whp / 90 ftbs TQ .. RIP (put a rod through the block)

 

Are you still trying to debate this Yes, it does sound like you suck at riding a dirt bike Have you ever watched a Supermoto or dirt bike race? Those bikes change direction like it's no bodies business! Now again, they can not carry the corner speed that a car can, but I'm done stating this point to you over and over again...

It's so basic and simple - I'm finding it amusing that you just don't get it... Take notice of the wheel base of a motorcycle vs a car - DUH! I can do figure eights in the middle of the street with my bike in the same area that you'll be lucky to pull of a K Turn in your 335...

Just let it go and know when you've been

 

LMAO-what a d-bag. You know cuz everybody runs magazine times (in cars and bikes) every run and their personal best ET's right?

I guess you wouldnt believe 07' Z's have run 13.1 stock because Motor Trend didnt tell you right?

 

uhh he has a 350z..

 

I'm just going to leave it be. edit - but thanks though

I haven't disagreed with the idea that cars carry more speed, I was trying to point out why, he attacks me and calls me dense, I try to explain further....same result.

Some people won't agree with stuff. It takes less time for a car (driver) to react to a direction change than on a bike, period. You turn the wheel on the car, you have to change the balance, attitude, suspension, throttle and brake loading on a bike. Yes, a great rider can be fast, but the reason a bike goes through corners SLOWER (carries less speed and brakes more slowly) is because of the inherent instability of having 2 wheels and a short wheelbase.

Thats not going to convince anyone however and thats fine, but I'm far from "owned" as it was put.

 

Guess you never heard of countersteering... I never used the word "dense" - I keep saying you don't know what the heck you're talking about...

 

i'm telling you guys.. bring someone to prove me wrong..

FYI.. i can hold corners at higher speeds on a bike than in my car.. the lower the bike gets.. the easier it is to hold corners.. thats why most people can't corner on bikes.. they are scared to get low.. me? i just have big FCKING *****

 

Doug, you and I are not the average riders... but, a well setup car is definitely going to carry more corner speed than a motorcycle... A simple skid pad test would make this very obvious... I'll do some digging later, but I know they're dozens os vids/tests on the net that demonstrate this...

 

Listen here DOUG, I suppose your fairytale is that all the riders in Conn are great, and all of the riders in SoCal suck. Just FYI, both these riders track quite a bit in competititive events. Secondly, being that I live minutes away from Mulholland, some of the most serious canyon riders go out here on weekends. I have raced many, many, many bikes with the same results. So whatever you say, you are the best rider in Conn (cough), so until you come out here, I don't believe you either. At least I show you videos, and time slips. Let's stick with the facts: I currently hold the 4th quickest 335i time in the nation with a mostly stock 335i. Where do you rank with comparable cars, or bikes? Why don't you post one of your videos so some of the bike riders here can critique your crappy riding skills too! Yeah, I know, we are all squids and trolls to you (typical response). You and your boys in Conn. rule, yeah! And if you ever do come down here on anything but stock tires, then I will just switch to some hi perf tires and see how you do against me....And by the way, I grew up riding bikes, GS750/1100/1150E/GSXR1000/H1/RZF350, and racing through the canyons. Never took my bikes to the track, but that doesn't really matter in this discussion anyways.

 

all of us california squids love to ride with any takers. might wanna scrub in those chicken strips first .

bottom line motorcycles are limited to contact patch. of course a 350z with an aps system and lightened to race weight would walk all over any bike on a tighter road.









heck some of us would even be up for a good old fashioned drag race, car to car.

there are a lot of guys out here that bench race and thats all fun, but this internet blasphemy goes a little far. As an act of good faith we would love to send you this gift as an act of goodwill towards a fellow car/bike enthusiast.

 

please.. just find me someone in CT or NYC Area.. please please please.. i had some videos some where.. can't find them right now

 

who has an APS System?

 

there are a few out here on z's. thats what im running on my goat. great build quality, and from what ive seen, on a stock 350z other than the system, they make impressive numbers.

 

The guy in the track pictures above has a 1000RWHP APS GTO that is being built. He is the one going through the canyons in my video, you know. the one you said is afraid of his bike, with the rear end dancing all around the place. If I had to put my money on who would win on the track between you and him, it wouldn't be on you.

 

why would you? you have never seen me ride a motorcycle

 

i'm sorry.. my car is no where near the performance of my motorcycle

 

Hotrod, do you ever have group drives with the BMW guys or anyone else? I'd be interested in hitting up some canyons with you. The M3 guys are doing malibu this weekend and I might show if I'm free.

Personally I don't feel comfortable following bikes very closely. Some guys are indeed very quick, but I always happen to run into the slow ones.

 

Oh, by the way...my car has about $500 in mods, how about his? It is maximizing your performance with what you have. I went to the drag strip, and currently hold the quickest ET for a non sponsored 335i. I went to the Dragstrip in my 06 M3, and I had the quickest stock M3 ET at that track. I go though the canyons, and there aren't too many bikes that will keep up with my stock 335i. So, for what little performance my simple luxury sedan has, I still manage to wring out the most performance that I can. But I would still love to see Doug "smoke" me though the canyons. Oh well, he won't come to Calif I guess..