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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave B
Impressive times for the 370Z. I knew from the start the 370Z had high 12s in it with some 26" slicks, a 1.7 60', and a couple of bolt-ons. But let's be VERY clear about something, this Canadian track the Z was run at is EXTREMELY quick. I've always made jokes about these Canadian tracks having nitrous-infused air because they always seem to spit insane ET/MPHs. This is the same track that a new Accord coupe 6MT with a CAI and precat deletes ran a 13.5@105mph. These numbers aren't the normal for either car. I have a VERY hard time believing a 370Z 6MT with the same bolt-ons and some 26" slicks is going to run a 12.4@110mph with 1.7 60' because that is exactly what this 12.8@110mph would equate to if the 60 foot improved .25 tenths. It's just not realistic.

On a normal track, expect to see 370Zs with these types of bolt-ons running 13.2-13.4s@105-106mph and 6MT with slicks to push into the 12s. I don't want people thinking this type of performance is the norm because it's far from it.

Oh and the 370Z is definitely a faster car than the 350Z HR.
Thats interesting.. considering most DE z33's run in the mid/low 14's at this track.. I would think that is the norm, is it not?
I did not hear about the accord running 13.5, could you kindly post a link to the source?
I am also surprised that you know of this small town track, considering you are from KS.

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^at that same track a stock 03 G sedan a ran a 13.8. yeah.
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 04:41 AM
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We have fast tracks in MD, and most every state has a "fast" track. It doesnt discredit the car or driver in what they both achieved IMO

LOL @ people trying to justify this was a fluke it wasnt. What a bunch of pansy losers most of this site has become.
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 04:53 AM
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^I agree!

I am sure Z Eliminator will run faster times next year, considering this was his first time out with this particular setup (IIRC)
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
We have fast tracks in MD, and most every state has a "fast" track. It doesnt discredit the car or driver in what they both achieved IMO

LOL @ people trying to justify this was a fluke it wasnt. What a bunch of pansy losers most of this site has become.
Never said it "discredits" the run, but you of all people should know that this 370Z's numbers are far from the norm. 9 out 10 370Zs with the same modifications will run significantly slower. This is also the same track that a bolt-on 98 Maxima with a VQ30DEK is running 12.6s@109mph NA and a 335i with 3psi increase in boost is running 13.1@109mph with a 2.4 60'? A 2.4 60'? Am I to believe that it's typical for a 335i with a very mild boost increase is capable of 12.6s@109mph with a more typical 2.0 60'?
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 07:35 AM
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110mps trap speed is awesome! and im not trying to stir this whole HR vs VHR bull$hit but VEETEC has had trap speeds of 109 mps in complete stock form heres the link "https://my350z.com/forum/drag/418694-i-had-a-frustrating-yet-impressive-day-at-the-track.html" .
i believe racing 350z of all years is a drivers race eventhough the HR and VHR have the the extra power to edge out a DE you cant say that the DE will never win. HR and VHR are too close imo, most people dont know how to drive their cars anyway
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave B
Never said it "discredits" the run, but you of all people should know that this 370Z's numbers are far from the norm. 9 out 10 370Zs with the same modifications will run significantly slower. This is also the same track that a bolt-on 98 Maxima with a VQ30DEK is running 12.6s@109mph NA and a 335i with 3psi increase in boost is running 13.1@109mph with a 2.4 60'? A 2.4 60'? Am I to believe that it's typical for a 335i with a very mild boost increase is capable of 12.6s@109mph with a more typical 2.0 60'?
look, all you have to do is look at the trap speeds. leave the driver equation out of this. stock 370's are trapping 106-108 consistently. thats good for very low 13's all day long.
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
We have fast tracks in MD, and most every state has a "fast" track. It doesnt discredit the car or driver in what they both achieved IMO

LOL @ people trying to justify this was a fluke it wasnt. What a bunch of pansy losers most of this site has become.
Agreed. I tried with solo, but there is no talking sense into him .

Negative DA's can happen in the most of the country, but I would have to believe that they are more common (and prolific) in Canada. If you are able to run on one of these days as opposed to the common 2000' DA found in the summer..........the difference can be pretty staggering (2-3+ mph).

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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave B
Never said it "discredits" the run, but you of all people should know that this 370Z's numbers are far from the norm. 9 out 10 370Zs with the same modifications will run significantly slower.
I have only seen a handful (or less) of members not magazine 370 dragstrip times.

How can you say this isnt the norm? I bet you that at any of the 2 quick tracks in MD these numbers could be replicated. Without seeing 20, 30, or 40+ 370 times and their respective mods to figure out a norm your comment is incorrect. You say 9/10 wont do this? Ok now back it up with 10 other simialiarly mod'd autos and prove yourself.

I think that gears in an auto that can hook decent will always pull times like this, the traps will vary some.
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Originally Posted by Alberto
I have only seen a handful (or less) of members not magazine 370 dragstrip times.

How can you say this isnt the norm? I bet you that at any of the 2 quick tracks in MD these numbers could be replicated. Without seeing 20, 30, or 40+ 370 times and their respective mods to figure out a norm your comment is incorrect. You say 9/10 wont do this? Ok now back it up with 10 other simialiarly mod'd autos and prove yourself.

I think that gears in an auto that can hook decent will always pull times like this, the traps will vary some.

Cecil/MIR=Win..........I know someone (from honda-tech) with an Integra type-r (normally a 14.5-14.7 car 94-95) ran a 14.1 at 97 at Cecil (bone stock).

That being said, Dave B, it isn't the track. Anywhere where negative DA's (and well prepped) can have staggeringly fast times.

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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 08:49 AM
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My buddy ran 14.1 @ 97mph @ CRAPITOL in a stock Type R yeeeeaaaaaarss ago his one and only pass not his car- so you see good drivers come out on top at any track

Like I mentioned above with tracks here in MD, you dont see a lot of ET difference but the traps change.
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
My buddy ran 14.1 @ 97mph @ CRAPITOL in a stock Type R yeeeeaaaaaarss ago his one and only pass not his car- so you see good drivers come out on top at any track;)

Like I mentioned above with tracks here in MD, you dont see a lot of ET difference but the traps change.
That might be the one I am thinking about.................I read his thread on honda-tech YEARS ago.

Agree 100% on the bold.

I stillll have never run at Cecil..........I want too badly.

Edited: changed info in prior post .

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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Nexx
look, all you have to do is look at the trap speeds. leave the driver equation out of this. stock 370's are trapping 106-108 consistently. thats good for very low 13's all day long.
No they are not. Research might do you some good sometimes.

http://www.the 370 z.com/track-autocross-drifting-dragstrip/7048-official-370z-1-4-mile-times-thread-stock-tt-nitrous-supercharger-bolt-ons-etc.html

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http://www.the 370 z.com/track-autocross-drifting-dragstrip/5537-where-top-25-1-4-mile-times.html

13's yes, but 102-104 is the NORM as per the link.,

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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
No they are not. Research might do you some good sometimes.

http://www.the 370 z.com/track-autocross-drifting-dragstrip/7048-official-370z-1-4-mile-times-thread-stock-tt-nitrous-supercharger-bolt-ons-etc.html

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http://www.the 370 z.com/track-autocross-drifting-dragstrip/5537-where-top-25-1-4-mile-times.html

13's yes, but 102-104 is the NORM as per the link.,
i see a 102, "hit the rev limiter". most of the A/T traps ive seen are 106+, not much for the driver to f'up. they'll only get faster with break in.

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I see no 104+ mph on both those two links except 2 cars, this one that did 110, and another 108. Sorry, but it's all in black and white, facts are facts. Most of the cars in those topics ran 13s but 102-104 traps.

Like Dave said, the norm with normal drivers will not see faster than this. The 110 is a odd-ball.
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Originally Posted by Alberto
I have only seen a handful (or less) of members not magazine 370 dragstrip times.

How can you say this isnt the norm? I bet you that at any of the 2 quick tracks in MD these numbers could be replicated. Without seeing 20, 30, or 40+ 370 times and their respective mods to figure out a norm your comment is incorrect. You say 9/10 wont do this? Ok now back it up with 10 other simialiarly mod'd autos and prove yourself.

I think that gears in an auto that can hook decent will always pull times like this, the traps will vary some.
This.
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We dont know whats odd ball for a 370Z because we dont have enough data on them, especially mod'd like this one!
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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
I see no 104+ mph on both those two links except 2 cars, this one that did 110, and another 108. Sorry, but it's all in black and white, facts are facts. Most of the cars in those topics ran 13s but 102-104 traps.

Like Dave said, the norm with normal drivers will not see faster than this. The 110 is a odd-ball.
most? as in there are 3 cars that tapped 102-104 on that list? not enough sample sizes. those 102-104 were mostly MT's. i dont know what it is, but the autos are putting up a great show 106+ mostly from the time slips ive seen. i'll give you this though. it is too early and not enough samples to make any conclusions.
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Hats off to the driver.. 370 is also sure to go a long ways..
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
Anywhere where negative DA's (and well prepped) can have staggeringly fast times.
I fully understand the influence of DA on ET/MPH. I've been drag racing since 1996. I've raced in 6000' DA in the dead of summer in KS and in sea level DA in late fall. The ET/MPH would vary from .5 seconds and 4mph with no changes to the car. I've also raced at five different strips over the years and not one of them turns out similiar ET/MPH compared to one another even though mods didn't change and DA was was factored in. Some tracks are clearly faster/slower than others and WAY too much credit is given to "driving" and certain modifications. More often than not, stellar and unnormal ET/MPH can be chalked up to two things:

1) Amazing DA
2) Fast track

These times are great times legit, but they're not the norm. If people think 370Zs are 12.8@108mph+ rides with a couple of bolt-ons, they're sadly mistaken and will be very disappointed when their Z turns 13.2-13.4 with the same mods. As for the gears, I don't buy it for a second that they are having a huge influence on ET/MPH. The car already comes with a 3.7 gear set and 7 speeds. It has plenty of torque multiplication the way it sits. This isn't an undergeared 96-98 Cobra with a terribly tall 3.27 gear set that does 50 in 1st, 73 in second, and 110mph in 3rd.
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just wait till florida weather gets a bit nicer
and you just wait till i put my new fuel pump in!!! hahaha
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