OK....I like to think I have been more than patient and helpful in the MANY PM's and posts you've made, but frankly you are being a bit of a ***** here.....if 12's were so easy....more than 1 person would have done it.

Secondly, the elevation of Wittmann, AZ (your track) is about 1350'.

The weather for Wittmann, AZ on March 16....the day you ran was this:

19:11 63.7 °F 38.3 °F 30.24in SSE 4.2mph 4.2mph 39% 0.00in
19:17 62.8 °F 38.1 °F 30.24in SSE 4.2mph 4.2mph 40% 0.00in
19:23 61.8 °F 38.5 °F 30.24in SSE 4.2mph 4.2mph 42% 0.00in
19:35 60.5 °F 37.9 °F 30.23in Calm 0.0mph 43% 0.00in
19:41 59.8 °F 38.5 °F 30.23in Calm 0.0mph 45% 0.00in
19:47 59.3 °F 38.6 °F 30.23in Calm 0.0mph 46% 0.00in
19:53 59.0 °F 38.2 °F 30.24in Calm 0.0mph 46% 0.00in
19:59 58.5 °F 37.8 °F 30.23in Calm 0.0mph 46% 0.00in
20:05 58.0 °F 38.0 °F 30.23in Calm 0.0mph 47% 0.00in
20:11 57.8 °F 38.2 °F 30.23in Calm 0.0mph 48% 0.00in
20:17 57.5 °F 39.6 °F 30.23in Calm 0.0mph 51% 0.00in
20:23 57.3 °F 40.4 °F 30.23in Calm 0.0mph 53% 0.00in
20:29 57.0 °F 40.5 °F 30.23in Calm 0.0mph 54% 0.00in
20:35 56.5 °F 41.0 °F 30.24in West 1.7mph 1.7mph 56% 1.64in
20:41 56.0 °F 41.0 °F 30.23in West 1.7mph 1.7mph 57% 1.64in
20:47 55.5 °F 41.0 °F 30.24in West 2.9mph 2.9mph 58% 0.00in
20:53 55.0 °F 41.4 °F 30.24in West 1.7mph 2.9mph 60% 0.00in
21:00 54.7 °F 41.5 °F 30.24in West 1.7mph 2.9mph 61% 0.00in
21:01 54.7 °F 41.5 °F 30.24in West 1.7mph 2.9mph 61% 0.00in
21:03 54.2 °F 41.1 °F 30.24in West 1.7mph 2.9mph 61% 0.00in
21:04 54.2 °F 41.5 °F 30.24in West 5.1mph 5.1mph 62% 0.00in
21:06 54.2 °F 41.5 °F 30.24in West 5.1mph 5.1mph 62% 0.00in
21:12 53.8 °F 41.0 °F 30.24in West 3.1mph 5.1mph 62% 0.00in
21:18 53.8 °F 41.0 °F 30.24in West 3.1mph 5.1mph 62% 0.00in
21:24 53.8 °F 40.2 °F 30.25in West 2.6mph 2.6mph 60% 0.00in
21:29 54.0 °F 40.4 °F 30.25in West 2.6mph 2.6mph 60% 0.00in
21:34 54.0 °F 40.4 °F 30.25in West 2.6mph 2.6mph 60% 0.00in
21:40 54.0 °F 40.4 °F 30.25in West 2.6mph 2.6mph 60% 0.00in
21:47 53.8 °F 40.2 °F 30.25in West 2.6mph 2.6mph 60% 0.00in
21:53 53.3 °F 39.8 °F 30.25in West 2.6mph 2.6mph 60% 0.00in
21:59 52.8 °F 39.8 °F 30.25in West 2.6mph 2.6mph 61% 0.00in

We'll say you ran at 9pm.......Your DA was.....
Track Elevation: 1350 feet above sea level

Air Temperature: 54 degrees F

Barometric Pressure: 30.24 inches Hg

Relative Humidty: 60%


Density Altitude: 1088 feet
Relative Density: 96.86 %

Sorry, that pretty much ends the debate. We get maybe 4-6 weeks a year with better DA's than that, but most of the time our DA's are higher.

All that being said......I'll look forward to new results.

 

Ok listen elevation is 1470 to be exact. Im not here to debate with you buddy i will just tell you some facts. My clutch was slippin on a elevation track with full weight and got 13.6 . Now you got good weather 93 octane weight reduction and ur runnin low 13.'s enough said. I will be gettin a ACT clutch kit soon here my car is in the garage now with a messed up clutch.

Now when winter hits so the weather will be A LIL better here in AZ i will go to the track WITH full weight too and see what i can get. I really wanna head out to sacramento raceway and break some records but its too far for me. Im not trying to be cocky or anything or be a dick im just not gonna sit here and be called a newbie. I already pulled some records for my previous car with bolt ons and full weight but thats off topic now hehe yall have a good day.

03threefiftyz ill probably expect another post from you but say what you want man whatever makes you sleep at night brother.

 

Ok, so the DA was 1125'.....shocking difference. I've tried to be nice, but for the love of god just look at what you've posted.....you are going to get newb yelled at you when you continue to open up threads with NEWB questions. Listen, you've sent me 14 PM's and I have answered whatever questions, however simple, with an honest answer. Same goes for 9 of your 30 threads that you have started. It makes you look like a fool to degrade helpful members.....by calling us "kiddies." Bottom line is I have run countless 13.1's in the same DA as you. I also carry far more mph. I'd expect a rather terse response from Alberto, and frankly it is deserved! Anywho, good luck to you and be safe.