LOL

Supposedly there is no overseas sales division anymore.

 

I think it's going to be pretty tough in stopping the sales in Japan, as I would be willing to bet that on technicalities they're not doing anything illegal. However, I plan on making a lot of noise about this so that we can hopefully stop this scam even in Japan. I am very certain that there is no way they will be able to revive the sales of the DPS in the United States ever again though - so that's good

 

They will figure it out over in Japan, they are smart people too...

 

An American who 'claimed' to be an MIT graduate and with the name of Gerhard W. Rickert (or Gary) is part of this K&G company. He resides in Japan and his name/photo were posted onto the directpowersystem.com website before. He claims to be the head of research and development of K&G

Do genuine MIT students make products like the DPS? You'll the judge. And if the answer turns out to be a yes, then God bless the American educational system.

In short, DPS will understand your English perfectly well, no need to tone down your flame.

 

Gary has been my contact in Japan on behalf of K&G and I have spoken with him both by phone and via online chat on many occasions before this 'incident.' Afterwards, he claimed to have no knowledge of what is inside the DPS, which is, of course, total ********. Our conversation did not go well at all and I am now contemplating what steps I should take to ensure that DPS sales are stopped in Japan.

 

let me clear up something since I know Wakida san, the guy who works with the American. K&G was only in the middle. They paied for the product as well. Igor, I would get your facts stright. Wakida san asked me to come here couse a japanese guy on this forum sent him the link. K&G has washed their hands from Kuwano. I read this whole thing and you call Wakida/Gary full of ****.... like I said...get your facts stright. K&G just made a contact point for Kuwano. Under their contract, there could not open it like you guys and they are going to get sued by KUWANO WHO MAKES THE PRODUCT because you as a distributor opened it and you admited it on here *BTW, I downloaded the page and sent it to Wakida* So you got 2 guys who just was the middle person in a lot of trouble. Good job Igor.

 

Oh, BTW, I just got off the phone with Wakida-san. Gary, gust got served papers and is now officially being sued by Kuwano. Because he is American I think and the contracts they signed by Kuwano not to open the products was opend by you... From what I hear you never got a contract right Igor? The reason....Gary trusted you and vouched for you cause of some other distributor in the chain. You see the gaijin takes the fall for everything in Japan. You just ****ed an inocent guys life. Nice going Igor. Never bite the hand that feeds you. You never know what might happen when a guy looses everything he worked hard for and it is taken away from him for no reason at all... he just might be waiting for you in your appartment one night.

 

Actually he works for a the strongest bank in Japan, but I am sure after its out that Kuwano sued him for everything, he will loose that too.

 

Rdemption, what the hell did Igor do? NOTHING! The whole thing is a scam. Are you behind it also?

Why are you taking sides of the scam artists here or are you not?

THEY had a legal contract not to open the box. Had to laugh when I read that one.

Hell, just sue everyone that posted here, would that make it better for the owners of this RIP-OFF product????????

 

Are you threatening Igor, Mr. Redemption?

You my friend, (well forget the friend part) need to mind your own business (unless you are part owner in this scam product) and face the truth. ITS A RIPOFF, let it be known, and whoever bought and signed the stupid contract not to open it, then well, they are just as stupid then. I'm out!!!!!!!!!!!

 

No, I am just saying that Kuwano was the source. If you dont understand buessness in Japan then I would not talk. They are weird there... All the secret **** is real there. And yes, like I said, I am friends With Wakida san. I am siding with K&G. Kuwano is killing K&G off for yes...opening the box. You laugh but I am sure you kow nothing about contracts or privacy acts.

 

I don't care who bought this rip-off scam product, they should have looked into before buying it. I have no sympathy for them, they are just as bad as the scammers are.

No sympathy here, NONE. So sad it takes an auto enthusiast to see what this product is really made of. Bad business practice at its finest!

 

What did Igor do? He never opened the unit! A customer did. There is abosultly NO legal recourse against him or any other distributor.

X

 

Actually he did, he even says he will again on this forum.

 

It shows what it is right here. Nobody knew that this literally was the exact diagram.

http://www.kuwano-jp.com/kuwano/01dps/fr02_dps.html

The price selling in the US was about the same price as in Japan.

 

As an observer to this rather interesting thread I'm wondering why Kuwano isn't defending their product or at least trying to explain what's going on. If their only response is to serve papers to distributors and not respond to the apparent findings that the box doesn't do anything appears to me to admit that it is infact a sham. Did I miss something?

 

I've come up with a new business model! I'm going to make a performance product for cars that utilizes digital encryption so I'll be covered by the DMCA laws in the US. The product will utilize some ground wires but otherwise won't actually do anything. I'll put it in a nice shiny box too (with stickers)!

If anyone takes it apart to figure out that it doesn't do anything I'm going to sue (on account of DMCA violations) and still make money! It's a win-win situation for me.

--
Jeff

 

Threatening people on a public forum isn't the best thing to do. Igor didn't open the box...a member of this forum did, who is NOT a distributor. If any customer were to open the box, is the distrubutor going to be held liable for that? if so, you're smokin crack.

 

Igor did not open the box, I did although, I'm sure he wishes he had before he started distributing a sham product.

I'd like to see them sue me. Come on, try it buddy.

I have no sympathy for anyone selling a scam product. They were straight out ripping people off. If you don't like the fact that they're getting sued for ripping people off, tough ****. If they actually win a lawsuit where they were selling a scam product and were exposed. Then there is something seriously f**ked up about the Japanese legal system.

 

The only statement Igor made about opening a box was this one.

When he said we, he was also referring to another customer like myself.

So, Mr. Redemption, maybe people should read this thread more thoroughly. I along with another customer opened up a box. If a distributor can get sued for a customer figuring out that the product was a scam, then I sure as hell wouldn't ever want to run a business in Japan.