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Old 10-17-2005, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Hydrazine
I suppose another way to road test it is to get two similar Z's side by side from a roll in 3rd or 4th. If they consistantly produce the same results it would make a fair test to put the mod on one of them and re run the test.

At least it would take driving skill out of the equation.

Better yet, you could even run from a roll in 3rd or 4th against your own time to a specified distance or speed...

What do you guys think?....
As far as I'm concerned, you show me independent dyno proof that you increased the area under the hp and torque curves by the amount claimed, and you will have a customer without ever visiting the track. And I don't mean the aFE kind of proof... I'd want same day, same car, same conditions, the only difference being the mod. However, I can understand where some may want tangible e.t. and trap speed improvements.
Old 10-17-2005, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by undrgnd
As far as I'm concerned, you show me independent dyno proof that you increased the area under the hp and torque curves by the amount claimed, and you will have a customer without ever visiting the track. And I don't mean the aFE kind of proof... I'd want same day, same car, same conditions, the only difference being the mod. However, I can understand where some may want tangible e.t. and trap speed improvements.
Sounds cool to me.
Same car, same day, same dyno, same engine coolant temperatures and everything else. Install it while on the dyno and pull again. 15+ HP at ~4300 RPM. With significant gains above and below. The peak HP will be down about 2.5 HP from the stock peak and will roll off ~9 HP from 6500 to 7000 RPM.

With the mod installed, across the board 2K-7K, the total net will be a significant increase. From 2K to the peak HP RPM (~6300 RPM), area under the curve will be substantially increased.

Injen CAI's and exhaust mods can change the shape of the gain curve a little.

I would like to allow for a dyno to dyno variability % correction factor. Dynos all across the country can vary widely in the numbers they produce.

All the stock revup engines I've seen on the same dynapack come in at about 270HP with only a little variation. (these REVUP engines are dynoing very consistantly when done on the same machine) So I have faith that all stock REVUP engines will be pretty much the same no matter where its done.

If you do your pulls on say a Mustang dyno and see a baseline of 255 peak HP in the stock configuration, expect the gains made by the mod to ratio accordingly. (255HP/270HP)*15+HP = 14.166+ HP.
Conversely, the same correction factor applies the other way. If you are on a dyno that shows 280 baseline. The minimum gain will be 15.555+ HP.


And remember this.... the first time you see this mod, you will be quite surprised.

At first glance you will be ???
Then a moment later you will be !!!!
Everyone else has!


An independant dyno will soon be performed by well known members of this board!

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Old 10-17-2005, 03:03 PM
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You already showed me you're a man of your word with the CCV transaction. All that's left to say is 'when'?
Old 10-17-2005, 03:21 PM
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Hopefully before SEMA. And definitly when I can get the new website going.
Old 10-17-2005, 03:35 PM
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Default High Rev Motors

I have an 05 35th with a 6speed 300HP, Why are they being called a High Rev Motor? Whats so different than another VQ35 other, than HP?

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Old 10-17-2005, 03:40 PM
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The factory redline on the 'other' motors is 6600. Check your tach.
Old 10-17-2005, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Hydrazine
Hopefully before SEMA. And definitly when I can get the new website going.
You gonna be at Sema in November? Im going with some friends....
Old 10-17-2005, 06:08 PM
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I'll be at SEMA as well.

Let me know if you would like to get this dyno done before then. I am good friends with a few writers for Sport Compact Car, so if you think this is worthy of magazine coverage, I can contact them to verify the #'s.

Thanks,
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Yeah, I'll be at SEMA. Not as a vendor but just to see it all and have some fun. The plan is to have a booth there next year with some trick new stuff to put on display.

And I'm all for getting dynos any time. Especially if it means publicity in SCC!
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sorry if i'm asking a redundant question, i've been following this thread loosely and probably skimmed over the answer but...

how much will this mod cost and how difficult will it be to install? also, will this in any way void warranty?
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5 pages and still you have not said what this "Top Secret" mod is. I want the 10 minutes of my life back.
Old 10-18-2005, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Rasengan
sorry if i'm asking a redundant question, i've been following this thread loosely and probably skimmed over the answer but...

how much will this mod cost and how difficult will it be to install? also, will this in any way void warranty?
Prices arent set yet, but I will make it so various options are available to put it in a price range everyone can afford. The highest price will be around $575. The lowest price will be around $300.

This setup is made of a lot more metal than just a spacer. But installation will be just as easy as installation of the Copper Iso Thermal plenum spacer system.

Void warranty?... technically any modification can be argued by a dealership that it voids warranty. It is predominantly up to your dealership tech manager. How mod friendly is your dealership?
Old 10-18-2005, 09:27 AM
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Tony,

Since you're letting a little info "out of the bag", how about answering this. Will this mod be compatible with existing plenum spacers and the Isothermal gasket or is it something that will replace/remove those two items?

Dave
Old 10-18-2005, 10:27 AM
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Just Spill The Beans!
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We're almost there!

Making progress on the website.

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Is it a throttle body spacer of some sort?
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Originally Posted by thawk408
Is it a throttle body spacer of some sort?

not sure what you mean......since the throttle body is a cylinder...and the intake is a cylinder..i dont think you can make a "throttle body spacer".....

however i was thinking....what if it's some sort of new manifold like the KinetiX SSV? maybe a split design with runners going to each side of the block.....i dunno just a thought
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Originally Posted by HarvesterUT
not sure what you mean......since the throttle body is a cylinder...and the intake is a cylinder..i dont think you can make a "throttle body spacer".....

however i was thinking....what if it's some sort of new manifold like the KinetiX SSV? maybe a split design with runners going to each side of the block.....i dunno just a thought
Dude, they have made throttle body spacers for many many years. Mostly for v-8 muscle cars or trucks.
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Sounds promising. But I'll wait until the final piece is out. Good thing I didn't buy a spacer yet or anything.
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Yeah, I have spacer and ISO kit ready to install but I am waiting to hear what this is mod is before I do. Hope they compliment each other.


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