380 hp without FI
10-12-2005, 06:12 AM
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no thats not what he posted at all....if you free up rotational weight, be it driveline components, clutch, pistons, rods, wheels, axles, and anything else that needs to spin in order for the power to get to the ground, you improve efficiency. By improving efficiency, you are using less joules (ie work) to do the same job, meaning that you waste less power. So, the motor is cranking out the same power as it did before...but now, for arguments sake, if you had a 20% drivetrain loss previously, you are now at, let's say, 15%. Again, not finite numbers, just an example.
Now...any other weight you free up from stationary parts (suspension components, body panels, sound deadening, etc) will also make the car quicker in a spring, 0-60, 1/4 mile, etc etc. Again, simple physics. If you have 300 hp moving a 3500 lb object, and 300 hp moving a 3100 lb object (assuming gearing and final drive are the same), the 3100 lb object will move easier and stop easier.
How much does it improve things? Well, it's in the eye of the beholder. last year Sport Compact Car had an article about lightening the Z. In order to remove 400 lbs, they had to resort to heavily drastic measures. Yes the car became quicker, but it also lost all sense of being a car at that point. How crazy you elect to go is totally up to you. For a street car, I personally do not see the point
Now...any other weight you free up from stationary parts (suspension components, body panels, sound deadening, etc) will also make the car quicker in a spring, 0-60, 1/4 mile, etc etc. Again, simple physics. If you have 300 hp moving a 3500 lb object, and 300 hp moving a 3100 lb object (assuming gearing and final drive are the same), the 3100 lb object will move easier and stop easier.
How much does it improve things? Well, it's in the eye of the beholder. last year Sport Compact Car had an article about lightening the Z. In order to remove 400 lbs, they had to resort to heavily drastic measures. Yes the car became quicker, but it also lost all sense of being a car at that point. How crazy you elect to go is totally up to you. For a street car, I personally do not see the point
10-19-2005, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jvanquish
Well...
I think he added the hp he freed up by saving weight off the body, crank and rotational...
ie, flywheel and pulley kits free up hp, lighter components free up hp, rims free up hp compared to heavier non-forged ones... etc etc... but it still wont add up to that amount though...
from a 10lb/hp freed up..
I think he added the hp he freed up by saving weight off the body, crank and rotational...
ie, flywheel and pulley kits free up hp, lighter components free up hp, rims free up hp compared to heavier non-forged ones... etc etc... but it still wont add up to that amount though...
from a 10lb/hp freed up..
you are a ****ing moron! less weight doesnt mean more horsepower! the more weight you lose, the better throttle responce and accellaration you get but not more horses.the theory is that for every 130lbs you drop, you gain the EQUIVALENT of 1 horsepower! this is where weight to power ratio comes in, because you are not gaining more power,just eccelaration. do your research dummy!
10-19-2005, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
no thats not what he posted at all....if you free up rotational weight, be it driveline components, clutch, pistons, rods, wheels, axles, and anything else that needs to spin in order for the power to get to the ground, you improve efficiency. By improving efficiency, you are using less joules (ie work) to do the same job, meaning that you waste less power. So, the motor is cranking out the same power as it did before...but now, for arguments sake, if you had a 20% drivetrain loss previously, you are now at, let's say, 15%. Again, not finite numbers, just an example.
Now...any other weight you free up from stationary parts (suspension components, body panels, sound deadening, etc) will also make the car quicker in a spring, 0-60, 1/4 mile, etc etc. Again, simple physics. If you have 300 hp moving a 3500 lb object, and 300 hp moving a 3100 lb object (assuming gearing and final drive are the same), the 3100 lb object will move easier and stop easier.
How much does it improve things? Well, it's in the eye of the beholder. last year Sport Compact Car had an article about lightening the Z. In order to remove 400 lbs, they had to resort to heavily drastic measures. Yes the car became quicker, but it also lost all sense of being a car at that point. How crazy you elect to go is totally up to you. For a street car, I personally do not see the point
Now...any other weight you free up from stationary parts (suspension components, body panels, sound deadening, etc) will also make the car quicker in a spring, 0-60, 1/4 mile, etc etc. Again, simple physics. If you have 300 hp moving a 3500 lb object, and 300 hp moving a 3100 lb object (assuming gearing and final drive are the same), the 3100 lb object will move easier and stop easier.
How much does it improve things? Well, it's in the eye of the beholder. last year Sport Compact Car had an article about lightening the Z. In order to remove 400 lbs, they had to resort to heavily drastic measures. Yes the car became quicker, but it also lost all sense of being a car at that point. How crazy you elect to go is totally up to you. For a street car, I personally do not see the point
10-19-2005, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by babbagandu
i thought this was cool. NA z making 380hp. he said 400+ at the flywheel, so im assuming the 380 is at the wheels 
here
here
Why is everyone still reading this guy's posts? He's the "cya ***s" guy.> https://my350z.com/forum/the-lounge-off-topic/148128-cya-fags.html
10-26-2005, 07:48 AM
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OMG.. LOL.. funniest thing ive ever seen....
check this out... this cant be true either..
www.ultimatez.com
go to that site and go to performance.. see the chart.. it says with the vortech if u go stage 5 or whatever u can get over 500hp??
see if thats true.. i doubt it
check this out... this cant be true either..
www.ultimatez.com
go to that site and go to performance.. see the chart.. it says with the vortech if u go stage 5 or whatever u can get over 500hp??
see if thats true.. i doubt it
10-26-2005, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 1fastz4sure
OMG.. LOL.. funniest thing ive ever seen....
check this out... this cant be true either..
www.ultimatez.com
go to that site and go to performance.. see the chart.. it says with the vortech if u go stage 5 or whatever u can get over 500hp??
see if thats true.. i doubt it
check this out... this cant be true either..
www.ultimatez.com
go to that site and go to performance.. see the chart.. it says with the vortech if u go stage 5 or whatever u can get over 500hp??
see if thats true.. i doubt it
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10-26-2005, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 1FlyZ
Actually i believe it. There is a guy on the site that has over 457HP with the vortech setup with all stock bottom end. https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....hlight=vortech And you never know they might be measuring that at the flywheel also. I would not doubt it for one second that they can get 500HP outta that kit. What they fail to mention is all the upgrades you have to do to get 500HP. lol But yes i do believe that.
has to be right?
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