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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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so where is the update, i have taken apart this engine outside of the car and it was a pain in the a s s, soooo i was wondering how everything was going inside the car still??

that timing cover has sooooo many bolts holding it on, also dont take the bolts outta the cam gears, you can leave them in place, if you do, you will have a big mess...

Its actually not that bad doing everything inside the car .. I have had really no problems yet. I have logged about 6 Hours on the car thus far with the motor in. Probably will have 12 logged when all is said and done.

When you say bolts out of the cam gears... do you mean the bolts holding them to the camshaft?
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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luke is doing this tear down to do the cams. holy hell man, those rod bolts are going to be a crappy time. you may be able to get away with it if you use a punch and hammer, but not sure how hard they will be pressed into the rods. wow, now i really don't envy ya. let me know how it goes, not sure i would even attempt this with out a full motor tear down to put the rods in a vise to get the new bolts in. good luck.

lol I have a engine hoist on it right now with the upper oil pan almost put back together.. I left it loose to ease the pain of pulling off the timing cover. When I changed the connecting rod bolts, the bearings are fine so that made me smile.. I torqued them to spec so... that is all set now.. that took me 4 hours of hell!!

Iam going back down right now to start marking the Cam positions to the chain and Iam goign to MIC the chain tensioner and write it down so I know how tight it was before, just for refrence.. But I am doing it Cam By Cam one at a time. I figured that should make it easier so the car will def. be in time so I dont have to F with it later.
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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Man, this sounds like one hell of an install. More than I care to tackle myself with hand tools in my garage (and I have so far done all my Z installations myself).

Not to hi-jack the thread, but can anyone recommed an experienced installer for Nismo cams in the Phoenix area? I got a set on eBay for only $622, so I figure what I saved on the cams I can spend to have them installed.

Thanks.
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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Looking at a shop charging you about 12 hours for the install...

If you want to drive to our shop and get a hotel for a night, we can do your cam install for you!

We can only install CARB approved products,

BUT! If the car is from out of state... Its all game
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 03:44 AM
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Thanks for the offer, Jason. I might just take you up on that. Sent you a PM.
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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Tonight the Timing Cover is totally pulled. This was one of the biggest pain in *****.. given the amount of room I was working with. But either way its off. I marked the gears with Right Intake, Left Intake ect ect... I also marked the chain in association to the gears just incase.

Heres some pics of what Iam looking at:
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Left Bank


Right Bank
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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no need really to mark the chain location. the colored links are used to mate everything back up. that part is pretty easy and straight forward. get your service manuals yet, lol. its all in there.
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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It seems that when you get cams if they give you springs it usually means that you need them unless otherwise stated. Not familiar with the JWT's what degree are they?
It already sounds like you are willing to take you time, it may be best to have someone knowledgable with you if possible, just to help out. Good luck it sounds like quite a project.
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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Well I took everything apart to be sure it was sealed properly and this happened....



Whats the proper torque specs for the bolts on the cam saddles??
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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17 in lbs

17 lbs PER INCH

not 17lbs per FOOT

different scale...
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason@Performance
17 in lbs

17 lbs PER INCH

not 17lbs per FOOT

different scale...
My friend tightened the saddles for me last time.. I went to loosen it and it snapped.. I just went out and bought a different torque wrench 1/4in drive that reads the proper scale. Who knows how he tightened it last time

If the intake cam on the right bank spins harder then it should .. what does that usually indicate?
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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ok... up to this point... it seems to be tough.... Best of luck to you man, it is a great job!

Can anyone tell me how long will it take and how much will it cost to take just cylinder heads off?

Thanks..

richie

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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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the tech's at our dealer can pull the heads and re-install the cams in a day..

to take the heads off, you have to remove the cams...
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Jason, so you will need to take off those timing covers too as well as those cam gears to remove the heads, right?

That's pretty damn good/fast to remove heads and re-install the cams in a day mate! You guys are truely experienced! I wish you guys were my neighbours...

cheers,

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Originally Posted by Z350Lover
Jason, so you will need to take off those timing covers too as well as those cam gears to remove the heads, right?

That's pretty damn good/fast to remove heads and re-install the cams in a day mate! You guys are truely experienced! I wish you guys were my neighbours...

cheers,

richie
yeah, a few of the head bolts are under the cams...

unfortunatly i dont have a good pic here...

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goodness... it looks.... mmmm..... sooooo... naked...

Jason, also a quick question regarding to all the gaskets (sorry to hijack the thread a bit), as you know that I clipped one exhaust valve due to valve float after my engine was rebuilt with all the brand new gaskets, and we are going to pull the heads off again (after less than 10km on the dyno), do you reckon we can still re-use all the rest of the gaskets besides the cylinder head gaskets? Thanks man!

cheers,

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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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no do not re-use... they are cheap enough rather then paying the labor again...

you will want a valve re-grind kit... It is basicly all of the gaskets from the head gaskets up...

http://performancenissanparts.com/ca...oducts_id=2687

Its not a matter of how many miles on these gaskets, its once they are torqued down, thats it...


off topic... I just got some S15 SR20DET exhaust manifold gaskets... Picture the 350Z exhaust manifold gasket (the 2 layer metal gasket) but with 7 layers! NUTTY!
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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jason, you have got a pm!

cheers,

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Originally Posted by Z350Lover
That's pretty damn good/fast to remove heads and re-install the cams in a day mate! You guys are truely experienced! I wish you guys were my neighbours...
That's why I'm driving there to have my cams installed next week (all the way from Phoenix!). I figure its worth the long drive and hotel expense to have some guys do this who have done a few and who know what they are doing.

Jason, see you Monday (btw, did you sell your brakes?).
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yeah the brakes sold..

sorry...

see you monday!
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