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Old 02-28-2007, 10:49 PM
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Hey guys. Just wanted to find out what kind of mods are available for someone who is trying to get as much power n/a as possible. I know there's the normal stuff like: intake, exhaust, throttle body, cams, but what about the more exotic parts? I know there are stroker kits, but what about individual throttle bodies? What would be the power range if all the parts that are available were used? Why am I hearing that VQ's are close to their power limits from the factory n/a, if they aren't even pushing as much hp/liter as say an M3 motor? Thanks.
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welcome to the forum, please search around before asking questions that have been asked 100+ times before you got here.

top 100 questions thread
https://my350z.com/forum/2003-2009-nissan-350z/197329-the-top-100-common-questions.html

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Fact is that going for all out N/A power isn't your best bang for buck. I would recommend looking into a TN ST or Vortech if you are on a budget but want to make some good power. A lot of people on here are seeing 400whp with supporting mods and a good tune with both kits. TS does make ITBs but the are d*mn expensive.
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Originally Posted by ambientflier
Hey guys. Just wanted to find out what kind of mods are available for someone who is trying to get as much power n/a as possible. I know there's the normal stuff like: intake, exhaust, throttle body, cams, but what about the more exotic parts? I know there are stroker kits, but what about individual throttle bodies? What would be the power range if all the parts that are available were used? Why am I hearing that VQ's are close to their power limits from the factory n/a, if they aren't even pushing as much hp/liter as say an M3 motor? Thanks.

Did you even make an attempt to search first!??
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Originally Posted by widebody350
Fact is that going for all out N/A power isn't your best bang for buck. I would recommend looking into a TN ST or Vortech if you are on a budget but want to make some good power. A lot of people on here are seeing 400whp with supporting mods and a good tune with both kits. TS does make ITBs but the are d*mn expensive.

Boost is nice, but I'm addicted to the n/a throttle response and the challenge of getting max power from it.
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Originally Posted by ambientflier
Hey guys. Just wanted to find out what kind of mods are available for someone who is trying to get as much power n/a as possible. I know there's the normal stuff like: intake, exhaust, throttle body, cams, but what about the more exotic parts? I know there are stroker kits, but what about individual throttle bodies? What would be the power range if all the parts that are available were used? Why am I hearing that VQ's are close to their power limits from the factory n/a, if they aren't even pushing as much hp/liter as say an M3 motor? Thanks.
Expect to invest alot of time and money if u want to go full blown NA. But if u want to take the road less traveled... go for it! Post pics on the build and share your conquest. Just to give u an idea.. the Top Secret ITB kit will run you about $7,000. Thats more than the cost of many FI kits out there.
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Originally Posted by Nismo 350z
Expect to invest alot of time and money if u want to go full blown NA. But if u want to take the road less traveled... go for it! Post pics on the build and share your conquest. Just to give u an idea.. the Top Secret ITB kit will run you about $7,000. Thats more than the cost of many FI kits out there.

What kind of gains could you expect from that kit?
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Here's my final word on N/A mods (my opinion):

06+ airbox (or stillen intake, or k&n typhoon), mrev2, 5/16" spacer, test pipes or high flow cats, true dual 2.25" exhaust, and a technosquare reflash OR UTEC+tune

forget stroker kits. forget ITB's, pretty much NO ONE has done this, and unless you're building a pure track car, forget cams and valvetrain.

that is the way to go. Figure out how much that costs and see if ~30hp is worth it to you.

now that I've said that, please read the top 100 questions thread and try searching for more info before you post anymore new threads.

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Sam@GTM already stated that an N/A stroker is in the works with a goal of no less than 400rwhp. Itll just take time. I think eventually, both setups will become popular.
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Originally Posted by ambientflier
What kind of gains could you expect from that kit?
No one really knows since no one here in the US has it. But I would guess somewhere around 20whp but cant really be sure. But like I said... 7k for 20whp... most people will spend on a turbo/SC kit and get 100whp.
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Originally Posted by SpeedRcr
they should make it where new members have to use the search key 20 times before they can post
No...we should make them read the top 100 questions thread and pass a quiz before they are allowed to post.
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06+ airbox (or stillen intake, or k&n typhoon), mrev2, 5/16" spacer, test pipes or high flow cats, true dual 2.25" exhaust, and a technosquare reflash OR UTEC+tune

I may be a noob in this forum, but I've been racing for a while and the above is the best bang for your buck if you are street/occasional DE.....
Old 03-02-2007, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sEEkEr
06+ airbox (or stillen intake, or k&n typhoon), mrev2, 5/16" spacer, test pipes or high flow cats, true dual 2.25" exhaust, and a technosquare reflash OR UTEC+tune

I may be a noob in this forum, but I've been racing for a while and the above is the best bang for your buck if you are street/occasional DE.....

I have this setup and it is night and day difference from stock imo. For the occasional spirited driving it deff does the trick. I had a Vortech SC'd 2000 maxima before this @ 12 psi and to me the Z w/ these mods feels just as quick and i know for sure can pull a faster 1/4 mile time.
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On my 06 I did the

MotorDyne 5/16 Space and MREV 2
K&N Series 63 Filter Setup
Nismo Cat Back

This has gotten me to 270 lbft of Torque @ 280 HP, all at the wheels SAE Corrected. Total Cost for all. Under $1700.00.
I still want to do High Flow Cats and a UR Pulley an Technosquare inc ECU re-flash. These last three should put me close to 300 ATW's. I hope

I have added link to every thing for you. Good Luck on your quest. I am a N/A Fan as well.

Chad
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3 letters, APS....youll end up spending as much money on N/A mods and end up stuck in the end without forced induction. I got the basics; intake, spacer, and exhaust comign but after that Im going forced induction...you can do a ecu reflash as well...just my .02
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Built head, I/H/TP/E, cams, reflash or UTEC. Central 20 3.9FD.
Rev to 8k
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Originally Posted by cdoxp800
On my 06 I did the

MotorDyne 5/16 Space and MREV 2
K&N Series 63 Filter Setup
Nismo Cat Back

This has gotten me to 270 lbft of Torque @ 280 HP, all at the wheels SAE Corrected. Total Cost for all. Under $1700.00.
I still want to do High Flow Cats and a UR Pulley an Technosquare inc ECU re-flash. These last three should put me close to 300 ATW's. I hope

I have added link to every thing for you. Good Luck on your quest. I am a N/A Fan as well.

Chad
270 pound ft of torque and 280 hp at the wheels with those mods? did the guys at the dyno shop pour in some "special" gas they called "C-16" by chance? hahaha theres no way man..not without at least headers and a reflash, even SAE corrected
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my advice on going NA would be to shop for specials or good used parts. Usually the horsepower difference between a $1200-2400 does not justify the cost, so pick up a used HKS or NISMO for $650-1000, a JWT popcharger used for $80 or new for $125, the Motodyne spacer for sure and MREV if you have the funds. Headers are not worth the headache or money for the gains, but if high flow cats or test pipes are feasible where you live, go for it.
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3 more letters NOZ.


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