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Originally Posted by derek173
Well how about this, go find every UOA of M1 in a vq35 you can find, then you will see what I have seen 95% of the time...high lead content (bearing wear)
M1 was a great oil, but it just wasnt a good oil for the Vq35. Get back to me when your done with your research.
M1 was a great oil, but it just wasnt a good oil for the Vq35. Get back to me when your done with your research.
No worries, as I have used M1 in my own car. I will certainly begin to ask around and chart my results from the responses I get, as well as my own findings.... Even from reading this thread I can tell that there are a lot of M1 users out there, not to mention that M1 is well-marketed.
So it went from never to 5% already. We'll see how accurate it is on a larger scale.
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Originally Posted by thawk408
No I have not missed anything and no i didnt have the aftermarket pulley crap. I am not a forum newd like you may think. I have basiclly read every thead in the engine section ever sense i joined...I have not missed anything. Everything was done correct with a fuel return, utec, and tuned by Forged. I for the most part I like to think that I know what I am doing. My machine shop looked at my bearings and said "well that looks like an oiling problem". Some of my other bearings had above average wear on them. I told them I had used RP and they said they have never had good luck with RP.
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Speaking of Forged, what has Sharif said about the situation? I don't mean to intrude if you mean to keep that part of the situation quiet. But I surely would like to hear.
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Originally Posted by Resolute
Again, this is a dead horse and if anyone really wants to look at the issues at hand then there is an entire site for it. A person can spend the next several weeks doing nothing but looking through post after post covering the suspected change over at the oil drop forum.
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German Castrol was a big secret to me I guess lol. When I first got to Bobs all posts regarding "what oil should I use?" A mention of GC was always in the replies. Then I saw a few UOAs of GC in the VQ and was very impressed!
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Originally Posted by dubbzdiggler
Isn't fake synthetic kind of redundant? Where do you get the German oil?
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also its a castrol syntec 0w-30 which is made in Germany. Its not made from the same ingredients as the other castrol syntecs.
Auto-zone sells its, recently read that Audi dealers also sell it.
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Derek,
It seems you have found tests on different oils, i am guessing from Bobs website. Have you seen any Test as the ones you posted on page 5 for Amsoil in a 350Z engine? I used Amsoil in my first oil change and ran it for 7k miles with no problems and great gas mileage. (averaged 19 city and 28mpg driving cross country from Va to Tx). Last oil change i used penzoil Platinum (thats what the nissan dealership said anyways) and have not been getting gas mileage as good as the amsoil was getting. (now averaging 15-17mpg city with 0 highways miles)
It seems you have found tests on different oils, i am guessing from Bobs website. Have you seen any Test as the ones you posted on page 5 for Amsoil in a 350Z engine? I used Amsoil in my first oil change and ran it for 7k miles with no problems and great gas mileage. (averaged 19 city and 28mpg driving cross country from Va to Tx). Last oil change i used penzoil Platinum (thats what the nissan dealership said anyways) and have not been getting gas mileage as good as the amsoil was getting. (now averaging 15-17mpg city with 0 highways miles)
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Originally Posted by Resolute
Group V esthers.... Redline, Motul, and such... I defer you to the oil drop forum to do your own research and decide for yourselves.
Will
http://theoildrop.server101.com/foru....php?Cat=0&C=2
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http://theoildrop.server101.com/foru....php?Cat=0&C=2
Frankly, I don't understand half the **** they're talking about, and I'm a freaking chemical engineer. (Forum members there get off on using jargon which I don't care to learn, and only a small handful of people seem like they know what they're talking about)
So, that said, care to summarize YOUR findings and YOUR opinions? I'm not letting you get off with saying "just go search"
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YOUR opinion on the best oil for the VQ? The oil you use in YOUR car?
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Originally Posted by danyeru
Derek,
It seems you have found tests on different oils, i am guessing from Bobs website. Have you seen any Test as the ones you posted on page 5 for Amsoil in a 350Z engine? I used Amsoil in my first oil change and ran it for 7k miles with no problems and great gas mileage. (averaged 19 city and 28mpg driving cross country from Va to Tx). Last oil change i used penzoil Platinum (thats what the nissan dealership said anyways) and have not been getting gas mileage as good as the amsoil was getting. (now averaging 15-17mpg city with 0 highways miles)
It seems you have found tests on different oils, i am guessing from Bobs website. Have you seen any Test as the ones you posted on page 5 for Amsoil in a 350Z engine? I used Amsoil in my first oil change and ran it for 7k miles with no problems and great gas mileage. (averaged 19 city and 28mpg driving cross country from Va to Tx). Last oil change i used penzoil Platinum (thats what the nissan dealership said anyways) and have not been getting gas mileage as good as the amsoil was getting. (now averaging 15-17mpg city with 0 highways miles)
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Originally Posted by Nexx
thats about the worst way to judge an oils performance. so many variables involved, i would never even consider using mpg as source to judge oil. ![](https://my350z.com/forum/images/smilies/icon22.gif)
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Originally Posted by MustGoFastR
Went and picked up 5 Qts of GC at Autozone to have on hand for my next oil change. I'll stick with the same M1-110 filter I've been using with Mobil1 oil, so picked up one of those as well. Total came to about $42; not bad, since it'll last me a year.
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Only complaints I've seen are it's too expensive
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Only complaints I've seen are it's too expensive
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Originally Posted by MustGoFastR
Yeah, I've been happy with them. The M1-108 is actually the same size as stock, but the M1-110 is the same size base with a longer filter, so it's my filter of choice. They run right around $10.
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Originally Posted by Wired 24/7
I've been to that forum several times, and to be honest, it's not the easiest thing in the world to read through old posts, and asking new questions elicits non-helpful responses most of the time.
Frankly, I don't understand half the **** they're talking about, and I'm a freaking chemical engineer. (Forum members there get off on using jargon which I don't care to learn, and only a small handful of people seem like they know what they're talking about)
So, that said, care to summarize YOUR findings and YOUR opinions? I'm not letting you get off with saying "just go search"
YOUR opinion on the best oil for the VQ? The oil you use in YOUR car?![Smilie](https://my350z.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Frankly, I don't understand half the **** they're talking about, and I'm a freaking chemical engineer. (Forum members there get off on using jargon which I don't care to learn, and only a small handful of people seem like they know what they're talking about)
So, that said, care to summarize YOUR findings and YOUR opinions? I'm not letting you get off with saying "just go search"
![Smilie](https://my350z.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
YOUR opinion on the best oil for the VQ? The oil you use in YOUR car?
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I don't know if M1 changed or not. I have the same suspicions as most people do on the other site, but I have sen UOA that support the claim they have not changed their base stock. I have some old M1 SL that I stocked up on, before they switched to the newer SuperSyn about a year or so ago. It is excellent and has tested very well. I just finished a 7500 mile interval and debated sending another smple in to Blackstone. Probably won't, the last one came out so good I'm not worried. It's the 0W-30.
When it runs out, I'm not sure what I'll do since the stock I have is long since discontinued. Hence my own personal reasons to see a thread dedicated to people posting UOA's instead of opinions. Guys can post all day long how Xbrand is the **** and gets xxx mpg, is used on the space shuttle, and since they've been using it chicks dig them, crime has gone down, and their car cleans itself. But where are the facts? Instead of oil brand, people could just as well be asking whether the APS or JWT TT kit is better. Posting oil analysis will give people who care a tool to make up their own mind, just as dyno sheets and sound clips and videos help people make a decision on TT kits. Otherwise, we'll just have a bunch of opinions, a lot of B.S., and page after page of argument. So a thread where people post what car they have with a VQ in it, miles in between changes, consumption at the change interval, and any other traits they think they noticed (mpg, noise, etc...) and then a UOA sheet would be great. Then people can start to see actual trends with oil brands and draw their own conclusions.
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Originally Posted by derek173
Bobs is a great website
, I just dont think many people here are too interested on reading about oils
and I think I made It known that most of my info is from Bob is the Oil Guy. Anyways I am going on their opinions on what s going on with oil the same way I look at people opinions here...because I am no expert. Most members seem to believe they did change the forumla. I also agree 100% you cant know whats going on unless you test. However long before I stumbled upon Bobs or even cared that much about oil, I had seen a few UOAs of M1 (old forumla) showing poor results on the VQ35.
German Castrol was a big secret to me I guess lol. When I first got to Bobs all posts regarding "what oil should I use?" A mention of GC was always in the replies. Then I saw a few UOAs of GC in the VQ and was very impressed!
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German Castrol was a big secret to me I guess lol. When I first got to Bobs all posts regarding "what oil should I use?" A mention of GC was always in the replies. Then I saw a few UOAs of GC in the VQ and was very impressed!
The GC is really good stuff, and if it was readily available, I would probably use it when my stock runs out. You can't go wrong with it, that's for sure. Although, there is also suspicion that the GC is no longer available. Since 0W oils have become more popular for cars besides German marques, Castrol U.S. has started to supply their own. I guess the CAS numbers have changed or dissapeared on what used to GC bottles. I don't know, since I've never looked into it, just another rumer like M1. But with less attention.
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Good info I was thinking about switching to this stuff not sure yet.
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