Well MY V8 is in!!! (LS2)
03-07-2008, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by dklau33
With the heavier RB you're throwing off the balance of the car. Why mess up the handling of the car when you can put in a LS2 that weighs almost the same as the VQ? And you're last statement just reeks of fanboiism.
03-07-2008, 12:23 PM
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I might just go SR20DET to save weight and go 1000 hp like top secret did in that supra. Then I will shut all you fools up...lol
Cant wait for more infor Noah.... School owns me while working fulltime, but I graduate in 3 weeks. should be more active and in contact with you more after that...congrats again for leading the way.
Cant wait for more infor Noah.... School owns me while working fulltime, but I graduate in 3 weeks. should be more active and in contact with you more after that...congrats again for leading the way.
03-07-2008, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Resolute
Why are people assuming that the LS2 weighs the same or close to the VQ? The LS2 is more than 100lbs heavier than the RWD VQ engine. The car will be heavier with the LS engine, not lighter.
I still love the swap and think the LS looks cleaner in there than the VQ ever did.
Will
I still love the swap and think the LS looks cleaner in there than the VQ ever did.
Will
03-07-2008, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dklau33
With the heavier RB you're throwing off the balance of the car. Why mess up the handling of the car when you can put in a LS2 that weighs almost the same as the VQ? And you're last statement just reeks of fanboiism.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_MNQf_t6Qgc
Dont underestimate the power of the RB26
BTW im not hatting on the ls2 swap. i love how it looks and sounds, i just have rather kept it Japaneses. But thats just me.
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03-07-2008, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by J-ROZ33
THANK YOU!! haha i kept wondering why people thought that the ls2 engine is lighter or as light as the vq.
Originally Posted by J-ROZ33
the RB26DETT can put out alot more power(with the addition of a bigger turbo and some bolt ons) than the ls2.
Originally Posted by J-ROZ33
Here, this aught to shut all you guys up ( no offense in any way) ^_^:
Dont underestimate the power of the RB26
Dont underestimate the power of the RB26
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/3...4201311d87.htm
03-08-2008, 11:33 AM
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It is only slightly heavier than the VQ. The LS2 is lighter than a VQTT.
Does anyone else actually know what the VQ or an LS2 weighs, or are there just general assumptions being made? On the same scale, on the same day, with the same ancillary components and manifolds attached, as dry as possible, the LS weighed in at 456lbs while the RWD VQ weighed in at 329lbs. I guess some people might be surprised that a 6.0 liter aluminum V8 weighs more than a 3.5 liter aluminum V6, but that's the way it is. The LS is light for it's displacement, due mostly to the lack of overhead cams, but it is still quite a bit heavier than the VQ.
I have no idea what a TT VQ weighs in at.
Will
03-08-2008, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fallenromeo
It is only slightly heavier than the VQ. The LS2 is lighter than a VQTT. Both the LS2 and the VQ are lighter than the RB26DETT.
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http://videos.streetfire.net/video/3...4201311d87.htm
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http://videos.streetfire.net/video/3...4201311d87.htm
Too bad that car is not a z -_-. The RB can hit 600+ with just the stock motor. it can easily hit 1000+ with moded parts.
BTW, i would love to see that car try to turn in a race. Quarter mile takes no skill just deep pockets.
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03-08-2008, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by J-ROZ33
Too bad that car is not a z -_-. The RB can hit 600+ with just the stock motor. it can easily hit 1000+ with moded parts.
BTW, you can get 600hp all motor on a correctly built and tuned ls2, 600+ on a turbo ls2 is very easy. its as simple as the displacement AND aftermarket support. the bigger disp motor with more aftermarket support will make more power and be cheaper to upgrade
03-08-2008, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by J-ROZ33
Too bad that car is not a z -_-. The RB can hit 600+ with just the stock motor. it can easily hit 1000+ with moded parts.
BTW, i would love to see that car try to turn in a race. Quarter mile takes no skill just deep pockets.
BTW, i would love to see that car try to turn in a race. Quarter mile takes no skill just deep pockets.
We are talking about the potency of an engine. The LS2 is a far more capable engine powerwise than the RB26DETT. 600+ is capable on an LS2 NA. Show me a RB26DETT that has hit 1700hp? They both fit in a Z, so what is your point about that GTO not being a Z? Is your point that the LS2 in the Z is different than the LS2 in that GTO? Or simply that the same engine somehow would yield more power in the GTO than is possible in the Z?
03-09-2008, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by fallenromeo
What does that have to do with anything?
We are talking about the potency of an engine. The LS2 is a far more capable engine powerwise than the RB26DETT. 600+ is capable on an LS2 NA. Show me a RB26DETT that has hit 1700hp? They both fit in a Z, so what is your point about that GTO not being a Z? Is your point that the LS2 in the Z is different than the LS2 in that GTO? Or simply that the same engine somehow would yield more power in the GTO than is possible in the Z?
We are talking about the potency of an engine. The LS2 is a far more capable engine powerwise than the RB26DETT. 600+ is capable on an LS2 NA. Show me a RB26DETT that has hit 1700hp? They both fit in a Z, so what is your point about that GTO not being a Z? Is your point that the LS2 in the Z is different than the LS2 in that GTO? Or simply that the same engine somehow would yield more power in the GTO than is possible in the Z?
It also would not surprise me if the LS2 is lighter then the RB26DETT as well.
03-09-2008, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Resolute
Because you consider 120lbs "slightly" heavier?
Does anyone else actually know what the VQ or an LS2 weighs, or are there just general assumptions being made? On the same scale, on the same day, with the same ancillary components and manifolds attached, as dry as possible, the LS weighed in at 456lbs while the RWD VQ weighed in at 329lbs. I guess some people might be surprised that a 6.0 liter aluminum V8 weighs more than a 3.5 liter aluminum V6, but that's the way it is. The LS is light for it's displacement, due mostly to the lack of overhead cams, but it is still quite a bit heavier than the VQ.
I have no idea what a TT VQ weighs in at.
Will
Does anyone else actually know what the VQ or an LS2 weighs, or are there just general assumptions being made? On the same scale, on the same day, with the same ancillary components and manifolds attached, as dry as possible, the LS weighed in at 456lbs while the RWD VQ weighed in at 329lbs. I guess some people might be surprised that a 6.0 liter aluminum V8 weighs more than a 3.5 liter aluminum V6, but that's the way it is. The LS is light for it's displacement, due mostly to the lack of overhead cams, but it is still quite a bit heavier than the VQ.
I have no idea what a TT VQ weighs in at.
Will
03-09-2008, 12:50 PM
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Here's a link for engine weights, all measured on the same scale:
http://www.engineswaptech.com/forums/thread/1186.aspx
The LS engines have a 60lb flywheel, are you sure? That's ridiculously heavy. The Z's stock dual-mass flywheel would be one of the heavier ones out there, but it's not even close to 60lbs. Hell, the flywheel on my International isn't even 60lbs.
For what it's worth, an RB engine with the RB25 5-speed attached is just over 700lbs. That engine is a heavy old lump of iron, and I would guess it to way more than the LS.
Which engine is "better" is a pointless argument and has nothing to do with this thread. Arguing about the supposed superiority of the RB engine, in a thread about swapping the LS2, is off topic for this thread. Let it go, or maybe start a new thread.
Will
http://www.engineswaptech.com/forums/thread/1186.aspx
The LS engines have a 60lb flywheel, are you sure? That's ridiculously heavy. The Z's stock dual-mass flywheel would be one of the heavier ones out there, but it's not even close to 60lbs. Hell, the flywheel on my International isn't even 60lbs.
For what it's worth, an RB engine with the RB25 5-speed attached is just over 700lbs. That engine is a heavy old lump of iron, and I would guess it to way more than the LS.
Which engine is "better" is a pointless argument and has nothing to do with this thread. Arguing about the supposed superiority of the RB engine, in a thread about swapping the LS2, is off topic for this thread. Let it go, or maybe start a new thread.
Will
03-09-2008, 03:37 PM
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Correction.
LS1 has a 49lb Flywheel and the LS7 has a 57lb flywheel.
I could have sworn the LS2 was 60lbs, but now I'm not so sure. No doubt it's somewhere in between those two.
http://kb.ls1gto.com/KB/article.aspx?id=10039
LS1 has a 49lb Flywheel and the LS7 has a 57lb flywheel.
I could have sworn the LS2 was 60lbs, but now I'm not so sure. No doubt it's somewhere in between those two.
http://kb.ls1gto.com/KB/article.aspx?id=10039
03-10-2008, 06:00 AM
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That motor weight of 456lbs includes the cast iron exhaust manifolds. The stainless steel headers from Hinson supercars are much lighter, reducing the installed weight another 30lbs.
03-10-2008, 03:48 PM
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I really dont care... 400hp stock is great. V8 TQ is also alot of fun. Not to mention, the LS motors can make some sick power with a cam or free flowing heads. I think it's a great idea...I'd seriously consider it if i had the money. I think the reliability would be worth it vs a turbo kit.
03-11-2008, 11:23 AM
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With over 67,000 views I nominate this thread for a sticky!
I will be updating it by the end of this week/early next with some action videos and more pictures...i am excited as hell.
I will be updating it by the end of this week/early next with some action videos and more pictures...i am excited as hell.