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Old 06-18-2010, 05:08 PM
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What do you guys think about the technique if its done properly (no forcing the shifter if its not getting in/out of gear easily, no grinding, etc)?

I can't really believe that there is a horrible wear and tear on synchros by a technique that pretty much requires perfect/damn near perfect rev-matching.
Old 06-18-2010, 05:15 PM
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I have a clutch and use it, no point not using it.
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Clutchless helps refine YOUR ability to rev-match, so in a sense its a very good teacher to learn your car's gearbox better, no?
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Originally Posted by Skv012a
Clutchless helps refine YOUR ability to rev-match, so in a sense its a very good teacher to learn your car's gearbox better, no?
No. Clutchless downshifts will put more wear and tear on the gearbox itself, particularly as you are learning. You're much better off spending your time learning to properly heel-and-toe downshift and rev matching while using the clutch. Plus, clutches are cheaper than rebuilding trannys.
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Well if you get it perfectly right, not too much damage. But lets be honest, how often do you get it perfectly right? Heel-toe and proper rev matching will be much more useful. Have fun with it either way. Your car.
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The GTR doesnt have a clutch pedal. Get one.
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And what would be the purpose of this technique?
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Originally Posted by davidv
And what would be the purpose of this technique?
poseurs pretending they are driving a race car. nothing more.
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Originally Posted by surfcity40
poseurs pretending they are driving a race car. nothing more.
OK. So this does not apply to me.
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I have an expensive clutch........and I use it.
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Ruins the entire experience of a sports car. You dont feel the same control...
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clutchless shifting = auto tranny ????
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this has already been debated.
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I could do it pretty well on the '58 Ford school bus I drove when I was in high school. That's also when I learned it wasn't such a good idea.
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I've done it a few times and not even realized until after that I did not engage the clutch. Just use your clutch or go get an automatic.
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sometimes I do it on upshifts just to show off to my girlfriend (who is learning stick) but never tried downshifts.
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For some reason the phrase "if you can't find it, grind it" comes to mind!

I think our synchros are fragile enough as they are, for you to go experimenting with clutchless shifting.
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Originally Posted by MDaniel22
I've done it a few times and not even realized until after that I did not engage the clutch. Just use your clutch or go get an automatic.
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This isn't a semi truck your driving... the only proper time for clutchless shifts is with a dog box or constant mesh gearbox. Not to mention its much more cost effective to replace a clutch than rebuild a tranny. Like everyone else said you have a clutch, use it.


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