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Old 08-19-2011, 11:17 AM
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Default Newbi missing a shift to 3rd?

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OK...this is my 1st 6 speed and I have found myself..where hammering it from a standstill....shifting into 5th from 2nd....missing third of course. I'm at 7K rpm and all of a sudden it bogs big time so I'm pretty sure I missed a shift.
Is this fairly common, or am I a KLUTZ.
Old 08-19-2011, 11:32 AM
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Do you mean 2nd to 5th by chance?
EDIT: I see what you're saying now, I read it wrong.

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Old 08-19-2011, 11:34 AM
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Lol, you're probably pushing right and up -- don't. You should just push up. The shifter should naturally want to go into 3rd on its own.
Old 08-19-2011, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by doshoru
Lol, you're probably pushing right and up -- don't. You should just push up. The shifter should naturally want to go into 3rd on its own.
Yeah...for sure. I'm comming from a Chevy Cobalt SS Turbo with much wider gates for shifting (5 speed). It's just a hard habit to break my shifting pattern. I guess I'm paranoid of shifting back into 1st. Is there a lock out to prevent that at higher rpms?

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Old 08-19-2011, 01:21 PM
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First, do not slam shift the car. Nice smooth and easy shift is what you need. The only time i screw up the shift into 3rd from 2nd is when i try do it fast. Really no need to do it fast.
Old 08-19-2011, 01:29 PM
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What he said ^^
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
First, do not slam shift the car. Nice smooth and easy shift is what you need. The only time i screw up the shift into 3rd from 2nd is when i try do it fast. Really no need to do it fast.
Good advice. Thanks.
Old 08-19-2011, 03:38 PM
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What were you racing against??
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Originally Posted by ZS14
What were you racing against??
Wasn't racing...just took it out to test it. All the way to red line on each shift.
Old 08-19-2011, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ronn1
Wasn't racing...just took it out to test it. All the way to red line on each shift.
As others stated - the shifter does most of the work if your dont force it - apply enough pressure to move it forward but your focus should be on the clutch pedal and giving it enough kick to release but not too much to get the "clunk" from 100% clutch travel

With my stock clutch I found it liked 50-70% throw and it would slide smoothly - if I gave it full clutch throw it would always clunk on fast shifts. Coming from a bunch of high rev hondas I was used to full clutch throw on full throttle shifts - the Z is NOT like that at all.

Play with your seat a little so your clutch throws are suited to your natural leg movement and youll find the sweet spot of clutch throw/gear release speed....I hated 2nd gear in this car until I found that sweet spot and since then it was just feeling my way into 2nd with proper clutch throw....at least on my revup....I understand the HR boys have various clutch issues so it might be different

My JIM Wolf clutch/fly is slightly different and I am just now really getting a good feel for it on shifts again - more towards the 80-90% range so I am giving it a little more throw than stock to get the gear to release smoothly but the harder I kick the faster it shifts so I am all - just more of a left leg workout....might be the 14lb flywheel too

Still need to find a way to get rid of the rev hang
Old 08-19-2011, 05:06 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks183JBR-1M

shift hard lyke this and it will work out. gotta put your body into it
Old 08-19-2011, 06:16 PM
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Used to happen to me as well!
What I did to fix it is when you shift out of second take your hand off the stick for a second let it rest in neutral then push straight up cuz it sits naturally between 3 and 4th
Hope it helps!
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Originally Posted by kburg711
Used to happen to me as well!
What I did to fix it is when you shift out of second take your hand off the stick for a second let it rest in neutral then push straight up cuz it sits naturally between 3 and 4th
Hope it helps!
I'll have to try that...sounds like almost a double clutch.
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Or...... practice>stop redlining like a retard = and your Z will thank you....I have missed 4 shifts in 4 years of owning the car, and 2 of those were on the track.

BE NICE TO YOUR CAR
Just sayin
Old 08-19-2011, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SergEK
My JIM Wolf clutch/fly is slightly different and I am just now really getting a good feel for it on shifts again - more towards the 80-90% range so I am giving it a little more throw than stock to get the gear to release smoothly but the harder I kick the faster it shifts so I am all - just more of a left leg workout....might be the 14lb flywheel too
You can adjust the clutch engagement point, fyi.
Also, it's the pressure plate, not the flywheel.
Originally Posted by SLIdEwAyZ25
shift hard lyke this and it will work out. gotta put your body into it
I agree on shifting like that for the drag strip, but it's unnecessary everywhere else. You should let off when you get wheel hop like that, too.
Originally Posted by kburg711
Used to happen to me as well!
What I did to fix it is when you shift out of second take your hand off the stick for a second let it rest in neutral then push straight up cuz it sits naturally between 3 and 4th
Hope it helps!
This only works for the stock dual-mass (27lbs) flywheel. Lightweight flywheels = less inertia = faster rev drops = not enough time to let your shifter to be in neutral
Old 08-19-2011, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Stock2Autocrozz
Or...... practice>stop redlining like a retard = and your Z will thank you....I have missed 4 shifts in 4 years of owning the car, and 2 of those were on the track.

BE NICE TO YOUR CAR
Just sayin
*RETARD*??
Easy there my man...redline shifts are not *the rule* with me...besides, *redline* for me is right around 7300ish. You don't think the car can handle that??
Old 08-20-2011, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
This only works for the stock dual-mass (27lbs) flywheel. Lightweight flywheels = less inertia = faster rev drops = not enough time to let your shifter to be in neutral
Thanks for that info for when I eventually upgrade
Old 08-21-2011, 05:44 AM
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Looks like Big Slim in the video.
Old 08-21-2011, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SLIdEwAyZ25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks183JBR-1M

shift hard lyke this and it will work out. gotta put your body into it
This vid should be in the top 100 , listed under "I'm starting to get a grind in 2nd, 3rd or 5th gear, what am i doing wrong"
Old 08-30-2011, 10:40 PM
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agreed.. you drive like an idiot.


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