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Old May 19, 2013 | 05:28 PM
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I was talking about the transmission adapter plate. I would assume that is a machined piece of aluminum. Anyone can weld up some crappy steel engine mounts (and about 90% of them won't line the engine/drivetrain up properly either).

What's the point of posting that a 2jz can do 8 million horsepower or send a rocket to the moon when it's not the goal of the OP? Seems like everyone just jumps in and recommends a 60k$ build out pure dyno queen engine. Not everyone that asks what to do wants a car like that or to spend that kind of money. Seems like every thread about an engine becomes a debate about which engine produced the most horsepower of all time.
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Old May 19, 2013 | 06:08 PM
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Hey what do you guys think about selling the turbo kit and going with a built na motor ... Not sure what it would take to achieve 350 400 hp on an na motor but I'm look for the most cost effective way. Selling the turbo kit would free up the budget for a built motor and tune. Other wise I'm thinking to get a low mileage stock motor and throw it back in with my turbo kit...
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Old May 19, 2013 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 350zjason350z
Hey what do you guys think about selling the turbo kit and going with a built na motor ... Not sure what it would take to achieve 350 400 hp on an na motor but I'm look for the most cost effective way. Selling the turbo kit would free up the budget for a built motor and tune. Other wise I'm thinking to get a low mileage stock motor and throw it back in with my turbo kit...
It has been proven to be extremely difficult and expensive to make that power NA on the VQ. You are better off buying a stock engine that runs for about $1,000(Just guessing) and have 400whp boosted since you have everything else already. Check the NA section, there are a few guys who have some serious NA builds.
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Old May 19, 2013 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Quamen
I don't typically disagree with you but I think that this is only about half true. It really depends on how the car is used.

If we are talking raw numbers and only street use, then for the most part you are correct. However, IMO there are better engines out there if you are making a purpose built car like mine was.

There in is the issue though, this forum is more dreamers and street racers now than anything so I am now the minority... .
I understand where you are coming from, but if you take into consideration failure, I think the 2j is a better engine to work with.
Here's what I see as benefits to the 2j:
Many shops will work on a 2j, in fact, I don't know of one who wont, yet I know a ton who won't work on a vq, have little to no experience or just in general charge too much. That and the cost to get a replacement motor is so much less (once you've done the swap). That and the 2j being a non interference engine means you likely only break a block...
Where as a vq you probably will mess up at least one head in a engine crunch. And you're asking for trouble buying random blocks. I only want a couple of places to setup my vq too... definitely not anyone local.

That being said, I'm still giving the vq a shot. Originally I wanted a ton of power but now I'll likely tune it out on pump and meth and maybe not even tune it on race gas just to keep those rods strong.
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Old May 19, 2013 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by graffkid732
It has been proven to be extremely difficult and expensive to make that power NA on the VQ. You are better off buying a stock engine that runs for about $1,000(Just guessing) and have 400whp boosted since you have everything else already. Check the NA section, there are a few guys who have some serious NA builds.


+1

NA power is very hard to make, and there just isn't enough of it.

Better off buying a longblock that works of somekind (stock or built) and adding a vortech or spraying if you want real cheap power.
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Old May 20, 2013 | 05:41 AM
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Look at some of the NA builds. Most are on the same level if not more money involved than boosted setups and getting 400hp out of this engine NA is close to impossible. Getting 300hp out of the old DE engine is pretty hard as well.
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Old May 20, 2013 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by binder
I was talking about the transmission adapter plate. I would assume that is a machined piece of aluminum. Anyone can weld up some crappy steel engine mounts (and about 90% of them won't line the engine/drivetrain up properly either).

What's the point of posting that a 2jz can do 8 million horsepower or send a rocket to the moon when it's not the goal of the OP? Seems like everyone just jumps in and recommends a 60k$ build out pure dyno queen engine. Not everyone that asks what to do wants a car like that or to spend that kind of money. Seems like every thread about an engine becomes a debate about which engine produced the most horsepower of all time.
If you re read my post I said this is why you would swap a 2j. Not why you should. If you want that kind of hp, that's why you should consider a 2j. I didn't claim everyone should go for 1800 at the crank lmao
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Old May 20, 2013 | 10:32 AM
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1800 a the crank i would go sleeved ls1 block, warhawk block, dart lsx next, other high end block here, 402 or 427 stroker assembly and twin 7275 or 7675s =P
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If you re read my post I said this is why you would swap a 2j. Not why you should. If you want that kind of hp, that's why you should consider a 2j. I didn't claim everyone should go for 1800 at the crank lmao
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Old May 20, 2013 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 350zjason350z
Hey what do you guys think about selling the turbo kit and going with a built na motor ... Not sure what it would take to achieve 350 400 hp on an na motor but I'm look for the most cost effective way. Selling the turbo kit would free up the budget for a built motor and tune. Other wise I'm thinking to get a low mileage stock motor and throw it back in with my turbo kit...
Sell the turbo kit, cut your losses, and get the car running again. Easiest solution. If you're HR, you can still get low mileage engines at a decent price. Just one I saw for sale in the NE forum.
https://my350z.com/forum/north-east-...-hr-motor.html
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