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Old 03-09-2015, 10:48 PM
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could be dumb but is a 6mt a cd009? what tranny is in a 2003 350z and what are the trannys and what years? thanks!
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CD0009/CD000A are the new transmissions. You have a CD0001, They are all 6MT. I think DE motors had CD0001and rev-up and newer had CD0009'S and CD000A have superseded the CD09's
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2003 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st and 2nd
No triple cone synchronizers

2004 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd

2005 CD008
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd

2005 CD009
Double cone synchronizer in 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 1st, 2nd, 3rd
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Originally Posted by Yaustinz33
could be dumb but is a 6mt a cd009? what tranny is in a 2003 350z and what are the trannys and what years? thanks!
This list (by year and configuration) courtesy of Busy Badger (mod on one of the other Z sites - might be here too):


2003 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st and 2nd
No triple cone synchronizers

2004 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd

2005 CD008
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd

2005 CD009
Double cone synchronizer in 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 1st, 2nd, 3rd

The original tranny in the '03 and up to '04.5 is the one most often prone to the "3rd gear gronk" issue. Recommended replacement is the CD009. Same gearing, more and stronger synchronizers in most used gears.
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Originally Posted by MicVelo
This list (by year and configuration) courtesy of Busy Badger (mod on one of the other Z sites - might be here too):


2003 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st and 2nd
No triple cone synchronizers

2004 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd

2005 CD008
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd

2005 CD009
Double cone synchronizer in 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 1st, 2nd, 3rd

The original tranny in the '03 and up to '04.5 is the one most often prone to the "3rd gear gronk" issue. Recommended replacement is the CD009. Same gearing, more and stronger synchronizers in most used gears.
okay thank you reason why ask is cause im looking to 2jz and heard that they are all 6mt but cd009 is the best so was just a little confused on what are what and If the 2003 6mt will fit the same as the cd009 all that's different are the syncros
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Originally Posted by Yaustinz33
okay thank you reason why ask is cause im looking to 2jz and heard that they are all 6mt but cd009 is the best so was just a little confused on what are what and If the 2003 6mt will fit the same as the cd009 all that's different are the syncros


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2JZ????

OK, sweet engine and all but one question.....

WHY???????

I know it's been done. I know it's a bitchin' motor but frankly don't see how the economics make it any better than, say, an FI HR motor (for probably the same or less money than the 2JZ fab would require.)

Or, if yer hell bent on doing something fun, there's always an LSX swap.

But, keeping the V6 config, you retain the insanely good F/R chassis balance the Z has rather than throwing the extra weight even further ahead of the wheel center line.

Unless you wanna be a farmer and need to PLOW the South 40.... Yeah, I'm being a joker but that's what the end result will be unless you can somehow get that weight shifted rearward by about 3". Can you say U-N-D-E-R-S-T-E-E-R????? Knew ya could...

But, it's your money. At the end of the day, I'm sure you'll be wondering WHY as well.....

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Originally Posted by MicVelo
2JZ????

OK, sweet engine and all but one question.....

WHY???????

I know it's been done. I know it's a bitchin' motor but frankly don't see how the economics make it any better than, say, an FI HR motor (for probably the same or less money than the 2JZ fab would require.)

Or, if yer hell bent on doing something fun, there's always an LSX swap.

But, keeping the V6 config, you retain the insanely good F/R chassis balance the Z has rather than throwing the extra weight even further ahead of the wheel center line.

Unless you wanna be a farmer and need to PLOW the South 40.... Yeah, I'm being a joker but that's what the end result will be unless you can somehow get that weight shifted rearward by about 3". Can you say U-N-D-E-R-S-T-E-E-R????? Knew ya could...

But, it's your money. At the end of the day, I'm sure you'll be wondering WHY as well.....
well first thought would ne to turbo the vq motor but they literally are terrible for that because high compression motor and v setup it would literally throw a bearing and or rod knock if I even attemted o go over 8 pounds of boost so I thought what would be a more reliable motor to have and turbo and I always wanted a jz platform so thought fck it 2jz because reliable can get a lot of power out of and kill v8's and still have fun at track and daily.. as far as weight? sure its heavy and could produce understeer but only if I didn't know how to enter the corner and nothing a few parts and camber cant fix so still my question is a 6mt the same as a cd009 just different internals?
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Originally Posted by Yaustinz33
well first thought would ne to turbo the vq motor but they literally are terrible for that because high compression motor and v setup it would literally throw a bearing and or rod knock if I even attemted o go over 8 pounds of boost so I thought what would be a more reliable motor to have and turbo and I always wanted a jz platform so thought fck it 2jz because reliable can get a lot of power out of and kill v8's and still have fun at track and daily.. as far as weight? sure its heavy and could produce understeer but only if I didn't know how to enter the corner and nothing a few parts and camber cant fix so still my question is a 6mt the same as a cd009 just different internals?
You clearly have no clue what you're talking about.

There are plenty of guys running over 8 pounds without an issue. But F&F... Right?
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Originally Posted by Yaustinz33
well first thought would ne to turbo the vq motor but they literally are terrible for that because high compression motor and v setup it would literally throw a bearing and or rod knock if I even attemted o go over 8 pounds of boost so I thought what would be a more reliable motor to have and turbo and I always wanted a jz platform so thought fck it 2jz because reliable can get a lot of power out of and kill v8's and still have fun at track and daily.. as far as weight? sure its heavy and could produce understeer but only if I didn't know how to enter the corner and nothing a few parts and camber cant fix so still my question is a 6mt the same as a cd009 just different internals?
Like I said, your money, your car. and this just isn't a case I'm going to argue because it's a waste of time if your mind is set.

Only thing I'll say about your "solution" of "...and nothing a few parts and camber cant fix": You cannot fight physics with parts. At the end of the day, the car still has overhanging front weight and inertia, being what it is, well...... But again, your car.

The CD009 does share similar case to the 001, 008, etc. IOW, it will bolt up to anything the earlier boxes will.

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Originally Posted by MicVelo
Like I said, your money, your car. and this just isn't a case I'm going to argue because it's a waste of time if your mind is set.

Only thing I'll say about your "solution" of "...and nothing a few parts and camber cant fix": You cannot fight physics with parts. At the end of the day, the car still has overhanging front weight and inertia, being what it is, well...... But again, your car.

The CD009 does share similar case to the 001, 008, etc. IOW, it will bolt up to anything the earlier boxes will.

Mic
well even the vq motor and weight isn't 50/50 and pushing the jz back closer to firewall will get it closer to weight ratio then a vq motor could weigh a bit more but turbod way more reliable more power and ould do whatever I want understeer isn't much of my worry I come from driving a s13 and those are just known to understeer and 350z with good fronts even stock its very hard to understeer or you just cant drive! lol only thing im worried about is where the shifter would be but I can just cut the linkage and re weld it to position it right
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Originally Posted by Yaustinz33
well even the vq motor and weight isn't 50/50 and pushing the jz back closer to firewall will get it closer to weight ratio then a vq motor could weigh a bit more but turbod way more reliable more power and ould do whatever I want understeer isn't much of my worry I come from driving a s13 and those are just known to understeer and 350z with good fronts even stock its very hard to understeer or you just cant drive! lol only thing im worried about is where the shifter would be but I can just cut the linkage and re weld it to position it right
Static weight 53/47 by Nissan design. Acceleration weight transfer creates a near perfect 50/50 balance.

Thinking about your intended swap for last couple days. I do think it'll be a good one if you want to drop the $$ into it. Please post a build thread. It'll either totally convince everyone how good it actually is OR.... get a lot of people shaking their heads and going "nuhhhh unh uh, nooooo way......" Hahahahaha!

I get nightmares imagining the fab required (and car downtime)... plus all of the electrical/electronic system swapover necessary to make it all work and still retain some semblance of Nissan, e.g., VDC, TCS, gauge read-outs, etc.

But hey, have a go at it!

Cheers,
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Is it possible to pop in stronger synchronizers in an 03 6MT Tranny??? I'm beginning to have the 3rd gear gronk too -_-
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it is, but i think you would spend more than what it is worth.

you can pick up a cd009 for $1800
http://www.z1motorsports.com/350_g35...oducts_id=5491
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Originally Posted by MicVelo
This list (by year and configuration) courtesy of Busy Badger (mod on one of the other Z sites - might be here too):


2003 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st and 2nd
No triple cone synchronizers

2004 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd

2005 CD008
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd

2005 CD009
Double cone synchronizer in 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 1st, 2nd, 3rd

The original tranny in the '03 and up to '04.5 is the one most often prone to the "3rd gear gronk" issue. Recommended replacement is the CD009. Same gearing, more and stronger synchronizers in most used gears.
I have the 03 6MT configuration, and I recently replaced my CD003 with a CD009. My 3rd gear synchros were beginning to grind, but the rest of my gears were working.
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