cd009? 6mt?
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2003 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st and 2nd
No triple cone synchronizers
2004 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd
2005 CD008
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd
2005 CD009
Double cone synchronizer in 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Double cone synchronizers in 1st and 2nd
No triple cone synchronizers
2004 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd
2005 CD008
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd
2005 CD009
Double cone synchronizer in 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 1st, 2nd, 3rd
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2003 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st and 2nd
No triple cone synchronizers
2004 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd
2005 CD008
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd
2005 CD009
Double cone synchronizer in 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 1st, 2nd, 3rd
The original tranny in the '03 and up to '04.5 is the one most often prone to the "3rd gear gronk" issue. Recommended replacement is the CD009. Same gearing, more and stronger synchronizers in most used gears.
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This list (by year and configuration) courtesy of Busy Badger (mod on one of the other Z sites - might be here too):
2003 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st and 2nd
No triple cone synchronizers
2004 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd
2005 CD008
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd
2005 CD009
Double cone synchronizer in 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 1st, 2nd, 3rd
The original tranny in the '03 and up to '04.5 is the one most often prone to the "3rd gear gronk" issue. Recommended replacement is the CD009. Same gearing, more and stronger synchronizers in most used gears.
2003 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st and 2nd
No triple cone synchronizers
2004 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd
2005 CD008
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd
2005 CD009
Double cone synchronizer in 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 1st, 2nd, 3rd
The original tranny in the '03 and up to '04.5 is the one most often prone to the "3rd gear gronk" issue. Recommended replacement is the CD009. Same gearing, more and stronger synchronizers in most used gears.
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2JZ????
OK, sweet engine and all but one question.....
WHY???????
I know it's been done. I know it's a bitchin' motor but frankly don't see how the economics make it any better than, say, an FI HR motor (for probably the same or less money than the 2JZ fab would require.)
Or, if yer hell bent on doing something fun, there's always an LSX swap.
But, keeping the V6 config, you retain the insanely good F/R chassis balance the Z has rather than throwing the extra weight even further ahead of the wheel center line.
Unless you wanna be a farmer and need to PLOW the South 40.... Yeah, I'm being a joker but that's what the end result will be unless you can somehow get that weight shifted rearward by about 3". Can you say U-N-D-E-R-S-T-E-E-R????? Knew ya could...
But, it's your money. At the end of the day, I'm sure you'll be wondering WHY as well.....
OK, sweet engine and all but one question.....
WHY???????
I know it's been done. I know it's a bitchin' motor but frankly don't see how the economics make it any better than, say, an FI HR motor (for probably the same or less money than the 2JZ fab would require.)
Or, if yer hell bent on doing something fun, there's always an LSX swap.
But, keeping the V6 config, you retain the insanely good F/R chassis balance the Z has rather than throwing the extra weight even further ahead of the wheel center line.
Unless you wanna be a farmer and need to PLOW the South 40.... Yeah, I'm being a joker but that's what the end result will be unless you can somehow get that weight shifted rearward by about 3". Can you say U-N-D-E-R-S-T-E-E-R????? Knew ya could...
But, it's your money. At the end of the day, I'm sure you'll be wondering WHY as well.....
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2JZ????
OK, sweet engine and all but one question.....
WHY???????
I know it's been done. I know it's a bitchin' motor but frankly don't see how the economics make it any better than, say, an FI HR motor (for probably the same or less money than the 2JZ fab would require.)
Or, if yer hell bent on doing something fun, there's always an LSX swap.
But, keeping the V6 config, you retain the insanely good F/R chassis balance the Z has rather than throwing the extra weight even further ahead of the wheel center line.
Unless you wanna be a farmer and need to PLOW the South 40.... Yeah, I'm being a joker but that's what the end result will be unless you can somehow get that weight shifted rearward by about 3". Can you say U-N-D-E-R-S-T-E-E-R????? Knew ya could...
But, it's your money. At the end of the day, I'm sure you'll be wondering WHY as well.....
OK, sweet engine and all but one question.....
WHY???????
I know it's been done. I know it's a bitchin' motor but frankly don't see how the economics make it any better than, say, an FI HR motor (for probably the same or less money than the 2JZ fab would require.)
Or, if yer hell bent on doing something fun, there's always an LSX swap.
But, keeping the V6 config, you retain the insanely good F/R chassis balance the Z has rather than throwing the extra weight even further ahead of the wheel center line.
Unless you wanna be a farmer and need to PLOW the South 40.... Yeah, I'm being a joker but that's what the end result will be unless you can somehow get that weight shifted rearward by about 3". Can you say U-N-D-E-R-S-T-E-E-R????? Knew ya could...
But, it's your money. At the end of the day, I'm sure you'll be wondering WHY as well.....
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well first thought would ne to turbo the vq motor but they literally are terrible for that because high compression motor and v setup it would literally throw a bearing and or rod knock if I even attemted o go over 8 pounds of boost so I thought what would be a more reliable motor to have and turbo and I always wanted a jz platform so thought fck it 2jz because reliable can get a lot of power out of and kill v8's and still have fun at track and daily.. as far as weight? sure its heavy and could produce understeer but only if I didn't know how to enter the corner and nothing a few parts and camber cant fix so still my question is a 6mt the same as a cd009 just different internals?
There are plenty of guys running over 8 pounds without an issue. But F&F... Right?
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well first thought would ne to turbo the vq motor but they literally are terrible for that because high compression motor and v setup it would literally throw a bearing and or rod knock if I even attemted o go over 8 pounds of boost so I thought what would be a more reliable motor to have and turbo and I always wanted a jz platform so thought fck it 2jz because reliable can get a lot of power out of and kill v8's and still have fun at track and daily.. as far as weight? sure its heavy and could produce understeer but only if I didn't know how to enter the corner and nothing a few parts and camber cant fix so still my question is a 6mt the same as a cd009 just different internals?
Only thing I'll say about your "solution" of "...and nothing a few parts and camber cant fix": You cannot fight physics with parts. At the end of the day, the car still has overhanging front weight and inertia, being what it is, well...... But again, your car.
The CD009 does share similar case to the 001, 008, etc. IOW, it will bolt up to anything the earlier boxes will.
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Like I said, your money, your car. and this just isn't a case I'm going to argue because it's a waste of time if your mind is set.
Only thing I'll say about your "solution" of "...and nothing a few parts and camber cant fix": You cannot fight physics with parts. At the end of the day, the car still has overhanging front weight and inertia, being what it is, well...... But again, your car.
The CD009 does share similar case to the 001, 008, etc. IOW, it will bolt up to anything the earlier boxes will.
Mic
Only thing I'll say about your "solution" of "...and nothing a few parts and camber cant fix": You cannot fight physics with parts. At the end of the day, the car still has overhanging front weight and inertia, being what it is, well...... But again, your car.
The CD009 does share similar case to the 001, 008, etc. IOW, it will bolt up to anything the earlier boxes will.
Mic
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well even the vq motor and weight isn't 50/50 and pushing the jz back closer to firewall will get it closer to weight ratio then a vq motor could weigh a bit more but turbod way more reliable more power and ould do whatever I want understeer isn't much of my worry I come from driving a s13 and those are just known to understeer and 350z with good fronts even stock its very hard to understeer or you just cant drive! lol only thing im worried about is where the shifter would be but I can just cut the linkage and re weld it to position it right
Thinking about your intended swap for last couple days. I do think it'll be a good one if you want to drop the $$ into it. Please post a build thread. It'll either totally convince everyone how good it actually is OR.... get a lot of people shaking their heads and going "nuhhhh unh uh, nooooo way......" Hahahahaha!
I get nightmares imagining the fab required (and car downtime)... plus all of the electrical/electronic system swapover necessary to make it all work and still retain some semblance of Nissan, e.g., VDC, TCS, gauge read-outs, etc.
But hey, have a go at it!
Cheers,
Mic
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it is, but i think you would spend more than what it is worth.
you can pick up a cd009 for $1800
http://www.z1motorsports.com/350_g35...oducts_id=5491
you can pick up a cd009 for $1800
http://www.z1motorsports.com/350_g35...oducts_id=5491
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This list (by year and configuration) courtesy of Busy Badger (mod on one of the other Z sites - might be here too):
2003 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st and 2nd
No triple cone synchronizers
2004 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd
2005 CD008
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd
2005 CD009
Double cone synchronizer in 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 1st, 2nd, 3rd
The original tranny in the '03 and up to '04.5 is the one most often prone to the "3rd gear gronk" issue. Recommended replacement is the CD009. Same gearing, more and stronger synchronizers in most used gears.
2003 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st and 2nd
No triple cone synchronizers
2004 6MT
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd
2005 CD008
Double cone synchronizers in 1st, 3rd, 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 2nd
2005 CD009
Double cone synchronizer in 4th
Triple cone synchronizer in 1st, 2nd, 3rd
The original tranny in the '03 and up to '04.5 is the one most often prone to the "3rd gear gronk" issue. Recommended replacement is the CD009. Same gearing, more and stronger synchronizers in most used gears.
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