NEW Tilton 8lb Flyweel package... Install and WOWIE!
05-03-2004, 10:16 AM
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clutch comparo
How do you think the Tilton compares with this ATS this twin disk that SkiDaZZle installed? I know it costs more , but it looks like it holds more TQ (for FI) and is not at all grabby.
http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...ine&prodid=669
http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...ine&prodid=669
05-03-2004, 11:20 AM
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Re: clutch comparo
Originally posted by G3po
How do you think the Tilton compares with this ATS this twin disk that SkiDaZZle installed? I know it costs more , but it looks like it holds more TQ (for FI) and is not at all grabby.
http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...ine&prodid=669
How do you think the Tilton compares with this ATS this twin disk that SkiDaZZle installed? I know it costs more , but it looks like it holds more TQ (for FI) and is not at all grabby.
http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...ine&prodid=669
The tilton clutch its self is only 8lbs... and only 7.25" diamater... stock clutch is about 11" in diamater... I believe that one is 9.X"?
so there is more rotating mass...
The whole Tilton Cerametallic disk clutch and flywheel weights 16lbs'...
now... We are one of a few authorized sellers of Carbon Carbon disk's for tilton... The 2 disk carbon/carbon clutch from tilton is not only 7.25" but will also slip like the ATS one spoken of in that thread...
it is a larger diamater so it is going to have more holding power.. but no where near the performance as far as revving and acceleration horse power increase...
here is some more info on the TILTON stuff...
Size: = Application: = Clutch Type: = Discs: = Rated TQ: = MOI (lb-in2)
7.25" = Racing = Metallic = 1 = 310lb-ft = 44.1lb-in2
7.25" = Rally = Metallic = 1 = 310lb-ft = 54.5lb-in2
7.25" = Racing = Metallic = 2 = 620lb-ft = 66.0lb-in2
7.25" = Rally = Metallic = 2 = 620lb-ft = 78.3lb-in2
7.25" = Racing = Metallic = 3 = 930lb-ft = 87.6lb-in2
7.25" = Racing = Metallic = 4 = 1240lb-ft = 113.1lb.in2
now the Carbon Carbon clutches..
7.25" = Racing and Rally = Carbon/Carbon = 1 = 310lb-ft = 42.0lb-in2
7.25" = Racing and Rally = Carbon/Carbon = 2 = 620lb-ft = 49.7lb-in2
7.25" = Racing and Rally = Caronb/Carbon = 3 = 930lb-ft = 59.3lb-in2
remember... these clutches are to be used only on the tilton flywheel which has a very small surface area...
05-03-2004, 11:21 AM
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What about the engine itself? I know on my S4, lightened flywheels were a no no because it removed the harmonic balancer, whats the dealio (my attempt to sound cool)
05-03-2004, 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by Scorch268
What about the engine itself? I know on my S4, lightened flywheels were a no no because it removed the harmonic balancer, whats the dealio (my attempt to sound cool)
What about the engine itself? I know on my S4, lightened flywheels were a no no because it removed the harmonic balancer, whats the dealio (my attempt to sound cool)
05-03-2004, 11:47 AM
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Comparo
Thanx for the data points.
IMO , esspecially when high TQ FI (TT or Roots) is applied to the Z/G, traction is a serious issue, so going ultra light with the flywheel+clutch combo offers less benefit than with a NA setup.
Now if the Tilton with Carbon Carbon were in the low 2k range , I maybe would jump on it.
IMO , esspecially when high TQ FI (TT or Roots) is applied to the Z/G, traction is a serious issue, so going ultra light with the flywheel+clutch combo offers less benefit than with a NA setup.
Now if the Tilton with Carbon Carbon were in the low 2k range , I maybe would jump on it.
05-04-2004, 11:05 AM
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sweet I can't wait to buy this. exhaust comes first though (still deciding on which one).
sweet I can't wait to buy this. exhaust comes first though (still deciding on which one).
http://www.performancenissanparts.co...th=153_176_381
05-04-2004, 12:31 PM
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great thread...
i was wondering Jason/Jeff...seeing all the post about the Vortech SC'er...and how it doesn't reach full boost til late...(which is obvious)
you think this set up will help the SC'er even up a lil vs. a TT on the streets(seeing TT hit full boost at 2500+rpms)..at low RPM's
or will i just spin my wheels all day with the SC'er?
thanks
eric
i was wondering Jason/Jeff...seeing all the post about the Vortech SC'er...and how it doesn't reach full boost til late...(which is obvious)
you think this set up will help the SC'er even up a lil vs. a TT on the streets(seeing TT hit full boost at 2500+rpms)..at low RPM's
or will i just spin my wheels all day with the SC'er?
thanks
eric
05-04-2004, 01:00 PM
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you will spin the wheels on any high powered car if you just nail the throttle...
the TILTON makes the throttle just even more sensitive, so not only do you have to get better at controlling your left foot on launches but also your right... you will then have full controll of your throttle and instant controll of your motor...
your motor will spool up faster then your SC will with this flywheel
the TILTON makes the throttle just even more sensitive, so not only do you have to get better at controlling your left foot on launches but also your right... you will then have full controll of your throttle and instant controll of your motor...
your motor will spool up faster then your SC will with this flywheel
05-04-2004, 02:05 PM
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Has the Tilton gotten any louder? Right now I am looking at the JUN flywheel because of cost and noise level. Alot of reviews mention that the flywheel gets louder the more the clutch wears and breaks in.
05-04-2004, 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by Jason@Performance
Maybe this will help you with your exhaust decision?
http://www.performancenissanparts.co...th=153_176_381
Maybe this will help you with your exhaust decision?
http://www.performancenissanparts.co...th=153_176_381
05-05-2004, 06:05 AM
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Originally posted by Jason@Performance
you will spin the wheels on any high powered car if you just nail the throttle...
the TILTON makes the throttle just even more sensitive, so not only do you have to get better at controlling your left foot on launches but also your right... you will then have full controll of your throttle and instant controll of your motor...
your motor will spool up faster then your SC will with this flywheel
you will spin the wheels on any high powered car if you just nail the throttle...
the TILTON makes the throttle just even more sensitive, so not only do you have to get better at controlling your left foot on launches but also your right... you will then have full controll of your throttle and instant controll of your motor...
your motor will spool up faster then your SC will with this flywheel
That's awsome stuff, I got to get one!
(the 80's talking)
Do you still have the stock Viscous LSD? If so why not get a better performance differential, wouldn't that make a difference in getting the power to the ground?
-just my 2c
05-05-2004, 01:44 PM
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Just a little side question but why is his SES light on in the video??
Just a little side question but why is his SES light on in the video??
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05-05-2004, 04:19 PM
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What's up Jason? This is Dave your instructor at Infineon. Since I drove your car for a few laps, I figure I'd give some feedback on the setup. As your video clips show, the thing shifts insanely fast (think F1 style). And all day long I kept joking around to Jason that he was hiding something under the hood because it seemed much faster than it should have for a car with only intake and exhaust. The extra push from the faster revs is noticeable.
As far as its streetability, you will definately not confuse this with a stock setup. It is a perfomance part.. Stop and go is more of a chore. Not sure if I'd want this on a car that commutes through stop and go traffic on a daily basis, but in all fairness, Jason was much smoother with it that I was in my short stint behind the wheel. Personally, I wouldn't mind putting up with the occasional hazing from my friends after stalling at a stoplight for the performance and "fun factor" gains of this setup. Once you are rolling you are in for a treat. Hope this helps.
As far as its streetability, you will definately not confuse this with a stock setup. It is a perfomance part.. Stop and go is more of a chore. Not sure if I'd want this on a car that commutes through stop and go traffic on a daily basis, but in all fairness, Jason was much smoother with it that I was in my short stint behind the wheel. Personally, I wouldn't mind putting up with the occasional hazing from my friends after stalling at a stoplight for the performance and "fun factor" gains of this setup. Once you are rolling you are in for a treat. Hope this helps.