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Old 05-19-2004, 01:28 AM
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What could you do to take a stock 350 to 350 actual rwhp, without tt or supercharging it? if you can! Thanks all
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i reckon it not possible. if you mean 350rwhp.
Some guys have aound 280 with plenum, cats, exhaust, headers, pulleys, intake etc... possibly even cams
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Why get the plenum when you could get the whole manifold with more hp from top secret and ssr eng? Just my two cents that it would boost that maybe up to 290 or so. Maybe some bigger injectors and nice fuel system too. Thats with the headers, exhaust, pulleys, and intake.
Old 05-19-2004, 05:32 AM
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you could do it. keep in mind that the jgtc vq35 makes 500 crank hp. you would need new internals, heads, all the boltons, likely as stand alone ecu, cams, the whole nine yards. likely cost 30000+

or you could cheat and get a stroker kit with some boltons for about half that
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Originally posted by PoWeRtRiP
you could do it. keep in mind that the jgtc vq35 makes 500 crank hp. you would need new internals, heads, all the boltons, likely as stand alone ecu, cams, the whole nine yards. likely cost 30000+

or you could cheat and get a stroker kit with some boltons for about half that
How does that have anything to do with just the manifold? I was talking about just the manifold not the heads and bottom end componets.
Old 05-19-2004, 12:02 PM
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Hey Johanna what the price difference for the manifold versus the plenum?
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Originally posted by johanna1
How does that have anything to do with just the manifold? I was talking about just the manifold not the heads and bottom end componets.
i was not replying to your post i was answering his question
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just to throw some controversy out there i recently saw a Z who had intake headers exhaust cats and pulleys with a plenum and uprgraded injectors, with a fcon pro stand alone system, who is pushing 313 rwhp.........its all in the tuning with this car gentlemen. but i also do agree the only real way to get some power is F/I i am trying to figure if i myself wanna go that route, but dont wanna blow the engine......
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^he likely had cams as well^
i havent seen anyone go above 270 n/a without cams no matter how well tuned
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Originally posted by PoWeRtRiP
^he likely had cams as well^
i havent seen anyone go above 270 n/a without cams no matter how well tuned
No I think you can get a little higher than that if the car didnt already have new headers. If you have an auto, I would suggest you get a high power tq converter.
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Originally posted by themartyr
What could you do to take a stock 350 to 350 actual rwhp, without tt or supercharging it? if you can! Thanks all
No one ever says it, but you could up the compression ratio and get higher flowing heads in addition to all the bolt ons.

If you size a cam correctly, increase the air flow through head and valve work, increase the redline, and up the CR, you will make a lot of power. I mean, how do you think muscle cars with 2 valves per cylinder get 800 HP out of engines that are only twice the VQ's size?

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No one ever says it, but you could up the compression ratio and get higher flowing heads in addition to all the bolt ons.

If you size a cam correctly, increase the air flow through head and valve work, increase the redline, and up the CR, you will make a lot of power. I mean, how do you think muscle cars with 2 valves per cylinder get 800 HP out of engines that are only twice the VQ's size?

How practical is that for an everyday driver?
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Originally posted by themartyr
No one ever says it, but you could up the compression ratio and get higher flowing heads in addition to all the bolt ons.

If you size a cam correctly, increase the air flow through head and valve work, increase the redline, and up the CR, you will make a lot of power. I mean, how do you think muscle cars with 2 valves per cylinder get 800 HP out of engines that are only twice the VQ's size?

How practical is that for an everyday driver?
Well, if you pick a race cam and up the compression ratio a whole ton (like 14:1), not at all.

But, if you bump it to 11.5:1 (a 911 GT3 is 11.7:1) and raise the rev limiter, you could make up for any loss down low and make a substantial amount up top.

You might be able to do 12:1 if you have 93 octane, or even 12.5 with water injection. A lot of 300ZX guys do it for high boost, but a similar setup works for NA (with a different sized atomizer from what I understand).
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A whole manifold from SSR runs about $350. Not exact, but it is in that range of money and it is well worth it. Just look at the quality of the craftmens ship. This item will surely help bigtime when trying to get that extra air into the engine for those hps.
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how much hp you get fromt he whole manifold and is that diffrent from the plenium?>
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How many hp is the whole manifold is that differnt than a plenium?
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Originally posted by johanna1
A whole manifold from SSR runs about $350. Not exact, but it is in that range of money and it is well worth it. Just look at the quality of the craftmens ship. This item will surely help bigtime when trying to get that extra air into the engine for those hps.

where can i buy this intake manifold?
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its not a whole manifold it is only the upper half and costs 800 gains have not been confirmed and it is designed with fi in mind
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Sorry, amit made a mistake, it runs $995, but they said at first it would run around $600. They say on their site they test it on a twin turbo G35 with 6psi and got 407wrhp. Don't know how true this is but seems nice. Could always go with the TS manifold. Looks really nice and would go good if you could customize the greddy kit to fit it. Would probly be real tight and cost a crap load though.




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