For those seeking serious FI holding power and streetablity , such as TTs with Forged internals , I think the ATS carbon-carbon is a great choice.

In these apps the extra "kick" given by the ultra-lightweight Tilton series is not necessary and can actually be counter productive , since smooth launches and holding power are more pre-dominant factor is these high end builds.

 

NP Jason. As you can see in my sig, it is most likely I'll go with Tilton as well .

On a separate thought, we should start a set of threads where we post different products/prices/metrics of interest for our cars... That way, we can share our research info and post constructive critique... I may start with the 'clutch' thread and, possibly, LW seats thread...

 

The tilton is able to be slipped. Not alot of slipage, but I have yet to break the rear wheels loose while starting out, unless in the mood to do so. In my opinion, these clutches WILL put the power to the pavement. The only real thing with the tilton is you have to learn to drive a stick all over again.

 

Is it possible to run a lighter flywheel with the stock clutch if your only around the 300hp mark? Or is it necessary to have the extra clamping pressure of a high performance clutch. I was hoping to run my stock clutch with a nismo or jwt flywheel. Thank you so much for sharing your experience with the rest of us.

 

you can change the flywheel only.

 

I hope so....i am gonna put a Nismo flywheel w/a stock clutch assy...i don't anticipate any problems... the stock clutch should be able to handoe the flywheel w/out trouble...

PS...MY Tilton setup will be available for purchase after Saturday...$1000...all bolts..clutch stop...everything....about 30% savings.........no negotiations.............

 

Yup. I'm running the JWT flywheel with the stock clutch. I wanted to get the Nismo clutch since it's a couple of pounds lighter than the stock clutch, and people say the clamping action is better than stock. However, my stock clutch works perfectly so I couldn't really justify another few hundred bucks.

 

I don't think the stock clutch can handle much power. If you plan on bumping up your HP, you might want to think about getting a clutch.

 

You have a PM...

 

It's been a month and I have had more time on this clutch. All I can say is that this clutch will be taken out and replaced with a different clutch/flywheel combo next spring. You know it's bad when you do not enjoy driving anymore becuse the starts are SOOO HARD. I would do it now, but my Z will be getting put away soon for the winter. Anyway, this clutch is VERY sensitive and to me is not very consistant. One day I can drive with ease, and the next I will stall or rough start everytime. The clutch normally engages within a couple inches of letting your foot off the clutch, sometimes I have had to check to see if I was even in gear because nothing seemed to be happening. And if your on even the slightest of inclines, forget it. I have even noticed that sometimes when I shift to second through fifth, the car will jerk. So to anyone that has this clutch and drives it well, good job. But to the others that are looking at getting it, think about it very hard. I am not the only one that is getting rid of this clutch.

 

another member on this board just had the same set up you have installed into his car... he used to have the version that was harder to drive... the first day we installed it he said it was much eaiser to drive then his original set up...

once you are moving you dont have any bad thoughts on this set up... I dont know why I didnt have a problem, maybe I was just used to it and have analyzed exactly what to do when launching, but I was more then happy with it...

just DONT over slip your clutch!!

 

I probably am over-sliping the clutch. I try not to, but it's hard not to unless you want a jerky start. I think the carbon/carbon clutches are the only way to go. I need a clutch that drives more like a normal car with the rev and power of the tilton. I am tired of holding up trafic when I stall several times in a row.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by lovetoclown
It's been a month and I have had more time on this clutch. All I can say is that this clutch will be taken out and replaced with a different clutch/flywheel combo next spring. You know it's bad when you do not enjoy driving anymore becuse the starts are SOOO HARD. I would do it now, but my Z will be getting put away soon for the winter. Anyway, this clutch is VERY sensitive and to me is not very consistant. One day I can drive with ease, and the next I will stall or rough start everytime. The clutch normally engages within a couple inches of letting your foot off the clutch, sometimes I have had to check to see if I was even in gear because nothing seemed to be happening. And if your on even the slightest of inclines, forget it. I have even noticed that sometimes when I shift to second through fifth, the car will jerk. So to anyone that has this clutch and drives it well, good job. But to the others that are looking at getting it, think about it very hard. I am not the only one that is getting rid of this clutch. [


Gee Clown, I hope you're not just trying to make me feel better!! While I'm sorry to hear you are havin problems too, I'm kinda glad to see I'm not entirely alone in my struggles with this clutch setup. Do you have any idea what you might be putting in as a replacement? I went w/the Nismo flywheel & stock clutch, but if I had it to do again I think I'd go with a little bit stiffer clutch.....good luck with your car!

 

I have the JWT flywheel and, to be honest, it's not any more difficult to drive than stock. I personally wouldn't hesitate to recommend a 14 pound unit (like the JWT or JUN) to anyone. Easy to drive (like stock) and still makes for a very fun difference when driving hard. It's a no compromise solution in my humble opinion.

 

Glad to hear that as I just purchased a jwt flywheel and clutch!!

 

I'm thinking of going with the Carbon/Carbon twin plate tilton. I like the tilton once you get started. I mean it revs like mad and the car moves like hell when you hit the gas. It's the starts that suck. I gave this a chance and for a while, I was getting better at driving it. But after a few weeks, I wasn't getting any better. It's to tempramental.

 

For sure, the Tilton's performance is killer, I just can't afford the $3k bite (plus labor) for the carbon carbon right now. I'm looking forward to your review once you put it in your car...maybe it'll shake my money tree hard enough to follow...good luck

 

Can anyone provide a technical reason for why it's harder to drive the car with a Tilton setup? The "streetable" Tilton setup is still only good for 300whp right?

 

I'm sure jason can chime in here and tell you exactly why. From what I know, the tilton is so hard mainly because of weight. The tilton is only 16 pounds total for the clutch and flywheel. So the car wants to stall when you first start out due to the SUPER light flywheel and the fact that the clutch plate grabs so hard. The ceramametalic clutch does NOT like to be slipped when starting out. The clutch basicly stops the flywheel as soon as it presses against it.

 

Im not having the best of luck also but I dont stall very much anymore maybe once or twice every other day...the performance cant be beat though..... Ive figured out how to keep the RPM at about 1500 durring take off's... using clutch and gas to keep it there takes some practice... but by doing it I have way better starts...... sooner or later Ill master it I believe...