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Old 07-27-2005, 08:22 PM
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My Touring has the factory HID bulbs.
Has anyone replaced the bulbs to make it brighter?
I like the look when you just turn them on, that bluish.
Can you just buy higher K bulbs or need to do something different.
Old 07-28-2005, 02:05 AM
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Have you adjusted them yet?
http://www.hypersprite.com/auto/tech-z-003/index.asp

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Old 07-28-2005, 02:07 AM
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yes u can just as easily swap xenon globes as u can halogen globes

but they are more expensive

if u like the blue, try PIAAs new range of xenon globes

http://www.piaa.com/Bulbs/Bulbs-HID.html

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Old 07-28-2005, 05:41 AM
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Keep in mind blue-er does NOT = brighter. the blue-er the bulbs are, the higher the color temp (Kelvins) and the LOWER the intensity of the light. Higher color temp bulbs will not light up the road as well as the stock 4300K (or is it 4600, I forget...) bulbs. They look cool, but just don't perform as well. I've seen 6k, 8k and 10k bulbs and know friends that have had them; all liked the look, but all eventually switched back to stock.

The cool blue/white color shifting effect you see on BMWs and such is due to the different optics they use in the projector housing (ECE spec); they actually use the same color temp bulbs that we have stock.
Old 07-28-2005, 10:11 AM
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You could get some 5000K Philips bulbs off eBay - that's what I did. Cost about $75 for two. There's one guy selling them on there - good service.

They are pure white . . . and I expect in a year as they age, they'll probably shift up to 5300-5400K.
Old 07-30-2005, 10:57 AM
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are 6000k blubs legal? i live in CA and theyre strict about everything..
Old 08-08-2005, 12:44 PM
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So you guys are telling me that i can buy the 12000k and put them in over my stock 4600ks without any probs?
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I put a set of Philips 6000k bulbs into my Z... waste of money. If they were cheaper, then sure, but at $230, it wasn't worth it (to me).

The bulbs give off a bluer/whiter light, but light output has diminished slightly. It's not that big of a drop though.

I believe the bulbs are "illegal" in CA, but it's not like a cop will be able to tell what color temperature your bulbs are. On the other hand, if your bulbs are too blue (8000k, 12000k), then expect to get a ticket.

And yes, as long as you buy the right type bulb, D2R, then it's just plug and play.
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The Philips 5000K and 600K are legal, since HIDs over time go to a higher K naturally. The philips are designed to match an aged bulb (if only one burns out.)
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Originally Posted by MrGraphics
The Philips 5000K and 600K are legal, since HIDs over time go to a higher K naturally. The philips are designed to match an aged bulb (if only one burns out.)
Xenon globes actually go to a lower Kelvin color output when they experience their 'color-shift'

I could be wrong, but thats what ive noticed on our cars at home
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On ititial power on, yes, they are at a higher K, then settle down to their normal K. The color spec is what the final resting K is . . . for these special Philips, its 5000 or 6000 new depending on the bulb (initial power on, they are much higher K - my 5000K start out at about 7000K then drop down.)

What you really care about is final resting K. As a bulb ages, this resting K gets higher - it stops dropping down as far. So a 2 year old HID bulb with a lot of time on it, while initially spec'ed at 4300K resting, ends up being more around 5000K resting due to age.

If one of the 2 year old 4300K pair were to burn out, and you were to replace it with a new 4300 K bulb, they wouldn't match. The 2 year old bulb is now resting at 5000k, and the new bulb rests at 4300K. So a better option would be to buy a new 5000K bulb to match the old bulb.

This is perfectly legal, so who's to say if I used two new 5000K bulbs (or 6000K for that matter), they weren't just two year old 4300K bulbs naturally aged?

Make sense?

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Old 08-09-2005, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TiPIACE
Xenon globes actually go to a lower Kelvin color output when they experience their 'color-shift'

I could be wrong, but thats what ive noticed on our cars at home
Nope, its the opposite. As the xenon capsule ages, the light becomes more blue. Halogen bulbs are the opposite, they become more yellow.

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Old 08-09-2005, 11:30 AM
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Simply just replace the HID DR2 bulbs with other bulbs. You may want to replace the parking light wedge bulb too.

I ask one of my friends to order a 6000k but he ordered a 8000k instead. So right now my low beam is purple, and the parking light wedge bulb is white.
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Originally Posted by HyperSprite

+1 I did the adjustment myself and set my hot spot just like the link did at 26 inches. It brightens up the road alot more better. I second this adjustment to everybody.
Old 09-13-2005, 07:19 AM
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check out http://www.motionr.com
MotionR 6000k looks awesome!!!
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