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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 10:19 AM
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I dropped off my car at a bodyshop/glass place to get my Mastergrade hatch installed and a 1/8' lexan rear glass mounted. The shop notified me that the hatch or lexan may crack if they just screwed or riveted the lexan directly onto the hatch. They also said that urethane does not like to bond to lexan. What other things can they do? What other parts are needed besides the hatch and the lexan itself? Is there some kind of mounting kit available?

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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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I have the stcok glass in mine, but I could've sworn I've seen it riveted before...
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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Thats what I thought too... but I'm wondering if there some kinda special moulding or strip that they use
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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contact jim@showstoppers he knows!
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 10:56 AM
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contact jim@showstoppers he knows!
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tonester1011
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 01:57 PM
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Where did you get the lexan ? The kit from LSauto comes with the rivets and mounting hardware. This will not crack the hatch or lexan. They also use a window sealant from any local autoparts store (not sure brand).
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 02:25 PM
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I got the lexan from another local raceshop. Do you know offhand what the hardware included is, Jim? I heard you need tapered rivets but I don't know what else. I contacted LSauto to see if they could help me out or even sell me just their mounting kit but no email so far. Anybody know a phone number I could use to contact LSauto directly?
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Old Aug 7, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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LS is pretty busy, he is the crew for Chris Forsberg' d1 team. You'll just hve to wait for a response. i don't remember exactly what was included.

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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 04:41 AM
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whomever sold you the lexan or is doing the install, should be able to tell you what is needed to install it
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 04:45 AM
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use your stock glass. There is a very small difference in weight between lexan and stock glass. Plus you get to keep your defroster.
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 06:16 AM
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UMMMM STOP!

I have CF hatch and 1/8 lexan, did all the install myself here it goes

- Place the lexan on the hatch tape it down ware it dosnt move around and looks good
- mark out ware you want the holes to be. mark the location of the lexan and remove it and drill the proper holes. preferebly spaced every 6-8 inches
-place the lexan back onto the hatch
-drill the holes with a high speed drill but slowly, use the holes drilled on the lexan as your guide.
-remove lexan one more time, and apply a beed of silicone, same one used for kitchen countertops and window corners. apply a thick beed.
-place lexan back on top and use NUTS AND BOLTS (recomended) or rivets to fasten it onto the hatch.
-remove excess silicone. make sure you do not tighten the nuts too tight b/c you will have waves on your lexan.

pic of my CF with lexan over 1 yr old. I opted and did a vinyl border for a more glass look.



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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by y0shi
use your stock glass. There is a very small difference in weight between lexan and stock glass. Plus you get to keep your defroster.
wrong!

stock glass 35lb

lexan 1.5 lb

stock hatch with glass 180 lb

CF seibon hatch stripped with 1/8 lexan 22.5 lb

ou save 157.5 lb thats 1 extra person, you can tell the difference im telling you
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Muzzy's car = Teh Secks

Tanks for clearing it up or us Muzzy!
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim@Showstoppers
Muzzy's car = Teh Secks

Tanks for clearing it up or us Muzzy!
YA thanks muzzy!

i updated an old thread asking the oem hatch weight that i did a long time ago.....

im also looking into the CF + lexan combo on my car soon
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 06:26 AM
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only draw back is that you cant roll down your window past 60mph b/c your hatch will start flexing and you will start cracking the CF, b/c the lexan is too flimsy and bowes. you will need alumenum braces that are easy to fab. just like the nascars and funny cars.
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 07:22 AM
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saving 33.5lb is only 1% of the total weight of the car... unless you race or plan on attending car shows... its not worth it.

If you change your mind and go with OEM glass, you will need a rear window modling + your old glass..
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 09:21 AM
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Can you buy the lexan and cut it out yourself? or do you have to get it precut?
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MUZZY
wrong!

stock glass 35lb

lexan 1.5 lb

stock hatch with glass 180 lb

CF seibon hatch stripped with 1/8 lexan 22.5 lb

ou save 157.5 lb thats 1 extra person, you can tell the difference im telling you
i didnt thinki the stock hatch weighed that much. More like 80-90 lbs..Besides, you got that big ole widebody kit on the car, whats a few more Lbs.?
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by MUZZY
only draw back is that you cant roll down your window past 60mph b/c your hatch will start flexing and you will start cracking the CF, b/c the lexan is too flimsy and bowes. you will need alumenum braces that are easy to fab. just like the nascars and funny cars.
Wrong. Not going to happen.
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