Aero Designs seat "BRIDE replica"
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, I hooked up robbinsj because he loves Carbon Fiber like I do.. 
04-14-2010, 08:18 AM
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I just called and asked them and they said it would cost me about $100 plus shipping even after they customize the mount to work with the ares slidders... Not sure why the price is so much less than what you have stated. The other thing i am not sure of is wether or not the 03 seat mounts are the same as the 07... They did not know this either, on their site it just states 03 - _ ill have to do a little research on the mounts but if you guys new then that would also save me some time :P ... Im just glad you went about hooking your seat up its given me the confidence to go through with it once i have the money.
04-14-2010, 09:35 AM
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He is talking about mounting holes to frame as the slider holes are the sizes the custom make it to.
I personally do not think there is a differance and thus it is not listed when buying brackets but idk.
04-14-2010, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by robbinsj
I strongly do not beleave a seat nor seat belt effects safty in any way and all safety is based on luck, timing and angle.
04-14-2010, 12:30 PM
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What makes a seat safe?
The wedge engineering mounting brackets are very beefy and bolt in exatly where the stock brackets would, with the same hardware.... i don't see a problem there at all.
If you are using the stock belts.... The seat belt clip in is taken off and mounted on the aftermarket seat or mounting bracket with the same hardware i believe, i could see how this could possibly be an issue as far as how sturdy the material is or isnt that the clip in bolts too.
The sliders bolt to the newly drilled out mounting holes in the wedge bracket... how different the slidders on the AD Seats are compared to the stock 350z slidders i don't know which could also be a problem point.
those are the only things i can think of as far as a problem safety wise... But hey im not seat safety expert.... If you can think of something else let me know....
And if you had everything assembled nice and tight with the correct hardware i think you would have to be going pretty damn fast for that material on the seat or slidders to give way. And at those speeds you are prolly gunna get F**KED up any how...
Robbinsj sense you have installed the seat how did you hook up your seat belt clip in? Is the materail sturdy in this location comaperd to stock seat?
Did you use the same hardware from the stock sliders with your AD seat slidders? How is the material strength of the AD slidders vs stock slidders?
The wedge engineering mounting brackets are very beefy and bolt in exatly where the stock brackets would, with the same hardware.... i don't see a problem there at all.
If you are using the stock belts.... The seat belt clip in is taken off and mounted on the aftermarket seat or mounting bracket with the same hardware i believe, i could see how this could possibly be an issue as far as how sturdy the material is or isnt that the clip in bolts too.
The sliders bolt to the newly drilled out mounting holes in the wedge bracket... how different the slidders on the AD Seats are compared to the stock 350z slidders i don't know which could also be a problem point.
those are the only things i can think of as far as a problem safety wise... But hey im not seat safety expert.... If you can think of something else let me know....
And if you had everything assembled nice and tight with the correct hardware i think you would have to be going pretty damn fast for that material on the seat or slidders to give way. And at those speeds you are prolly gunna get F**KED up any how...
Robbinsj sense you have installed the seat how did you hook up your seat belt clip in? Is the materail sturdy in this location comaperd to stock seat?
Did you use the same hardware from the stock sliders with your AD seat slidders? How is the material strength of the AD slidders vs stock slidders?
04-14-2010, 12:30 PM
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I wouldn't bother trying to reason with the OP...
https://my350z.com/forum/exterior-an...ors-seats.html
https://my350z.com/forum/exterior-an...ors-seats.html
04-14-2010, 01:18 PM
#93
what IS the safety function of a seat you ask. primarily seats need to:
1. support your weight while in an upright position
2. support lateral motion (side to side)
3. maintain its shape during impact
4. provide head support
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Recaro/Sparco/Bride/OEM actually do impact tests on seats to make sure the occupant (YOU) will remain inside the seat, and make sure that the forces exerted on the seat do not cause it to fail/bend/crack as your body is subject to severe forces that happen during a crash. hopefully you passed physics class to understand what happens to an object in motion and what it takes to stop it.
now, a REPLICA seat is just that, they take the mold of the seat they they're copying and spit out one that looks just like it.. but they didn't take in effect the manufacturing PROCESS that the original seat manufacturing company went through, I.e. cross hatching the internal structure, honey comb reinforcements, etc. to get FIA certified or whatever safety standard.
sure your replica seat LOOKS like the real thing, but you sure it'll hold up the same? you willing to bet your life on it? sure. be my guest. i'd rather pay a few bucks more and know that the seat i'm sitting in was put to some standard, rather than a crap shoot. if you have that mentality, you might as well get a plastic halloween pumpkin as a helmet, sit on a 5 gallon ice cream bucket, and goto the track, because hey. where's the safety documents saying that isnt' safe?
Last edited by Chebosto; 04-14-2010 at 01:26 PM.
04-14-2010, 01:36 PM
#94
No need to say sorry friend.
To each there own but honestly this is not the seats I want. If I had the extra $$$ I would get the all dry CF ones I saw on here. This was and is for test purposes only as I am not a sheep so I do not take all I hear on this forum as gospel. I can not justify the extra $$ atm so I am trying diff things. Also this is the first time I have ever changed the OEM seats in any of my cars so I have yet to really set myself on the tyle that I will like best. Think I will try diff types and brands before I settle on what is right for me.
This thread was made to help others that might have considered these but where not able to simply test like I am.
To each there own but honestly this is not the seats I want. If I had the extra $$$ I would get the all dry CF ones I saw on here. This was and is for test purposes only as I am not a sheep so I do not take all I hear on this forum as gospel. I can not justify the extra $$ atm so I am trying diff things. Also this is the first time I have ever changed the OEM seats in any of my cars so I have yet to really set myself on the tyle that I will like best. Think I will try diff types and brands before I settle on what is right for me.
This thread was made to help others that might have considered these but where not able to simply test like I am.
04-14-2010, 01:37 PM
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sure your replica seat LOOKS like the real thing, but you sure it'll hold up the same? you willing to bet your life on it? sure. be my guest. i'd rather pay a few bucks more and know that the seat i'm sitting in was put to some standard, rather than a crap shoot. if you have that mentality, you might as well get a plastic halloween pumpkin as a helmet, sit on a 5 gallon ice cream bucket, and goto the track, because hey. where's the safety documents saying that isnt' safe?
I will do some research on this standard... but if someone has a link i would appriciate it.
04-14-2010, 01:56 PM
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which is why i have contacted someone there by email requesting a specification sheet on what safety tests they do to insure our safety... because yes a seat is not just looks weight and comfert. I will post a conclusion to my question when i get a response, hoping they do some kind of testing : / And if they are not tested then how would they perform if they were? I would like to know what the "Standard" is for testing seats.I will do some research on this standard... but if someone has a link i would appriciate it.
there are several different standards that seat manufacturers build to. depending on what they are for. typically race seats are built to and get certified to FIA Homologation. FIA is the international non-profit organization that strives to create safety standards for automobiles. most sactioning racing bodies require the safety equipment used be FIA certified.
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/Pages/HomePage.aspx
there is also TUV
http://www.tuv.com/us/en/index.html
Racing harnesses have SFI, helmets have snell.. there are a bunch of others.
some people then claim: this isn't a race car. it's a street car. well for that matter, i would be even more stringent on safety for a road-going car. race cars have roll cages for further impact resistance. if you have a 'pretty' seat that is blinged out carbon, but a POS structuraly, god help you. Its not your stupidity that will test the seat, it's the guy that doesnt see you at the intersection.
i'll bet you that AD res won't answer you on your inquiry on safety crash tests because crash testing takes $10000s to do, and no way a knock off company is going to goto that trouble in doing so...these seats are made in china, with most likely a spray on FRP matting, and two layers of CF with heavy gel coat over it. oh yea, the side mounting on real race seats are reinforced inside so your side mount brackets will stay in place once they are installed... the KO china pieces? its probably a threaded press in rivet with zero reinforcement. a manufacturing AFTERTHOUGHT.
good luck to you all if you follow this path. the only thing that seat is good for is the Gran Turismo simulator in your living room
Last edited by Chebosto; 04-14-2010 at 01:58 PM.
04-14-2010, 01:58 PM
#98
wow. srsly?
what IS the safety function of a seat you ask. primarily seats need to:
1. support your weight while in an upright position
2. support lateral motion (side to side)
3. maintain its shape during impact
4. provide head support
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Recaro/Sparco/Bride/OEM actually do impact tests on seats to make sure the occupant (YOU) will remain inside the seat, and make sure that the forces exerted on the seat do not cause it to fail/bend/crack as your body is subject to severe forces that happen during a crash. hopefully you passed physics class to understand what happens to an object in motion and what it takes to stop it.
now, a REPLICA seat is just that, they take the mold of the seat they they're copying and spit out one that looks just like it.. but they didn't take in effect the manufacturing PROCESS that the original seat manufacturing company went through, I.e. cross hatching the internal structure, honey comb reinforcements, etc. to get FIA certified or whatever safety standard.
sure your replica seat LOOKS like the real thing, but you sure it'll hold up the same? you willing to bet your life on it? sure. be my guest. i'd rather pay a few bucks more and know that the seat i'm sitting in was put to some standard, rather than a crap shoot. if you have that mentality, you might as well get a plastic halloween pumpkin as a helmet, sit on a 5 gallon ice cream bucket, and goto the track, because hey. where's the safety documents saying that isnt' safe?
what IS the safety function of a seat you ask. primarily seats need to:
1. support your weight while in an upright position
2. support lateral motion (side to side)
3. maintain its shape during impact
4. provide head support
<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/9xoauIutCmc&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/9xoauIutCmc&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
Recaro/Sparco/Bride/OEM actually do impact tests on seats to make sure the occupant (YOU) will remain inside the seat, and make sure that the forces exerted on the seat do not cause it to fail/bend/crack as your body is subject to severe forces that happen during a crash. hopefully you passed physics class to understand what happens to an object in motion and what it takes to stop it.
now, a REPLICA seat is just that, they take the mold of the seat they they're copying and spit out one that looks just like it.. but they didn't take in effect the manufacturing PROCESS that the original seat manufacturing company went through, I.e. cross hatching the internal structure, honey comb reinforcements, etc. to get FIA certified or whatever safety standard.
sure your replica seat LOOKS like the real thing, but you sure it'll hold up the same? you willing to bet your life on it? sure. be my guest. i'd rather pay a few bucks more and know that the seat i'm sitting in was put to some standard, rather than a crap shoot. if you have that mentality, you might as well get a plastic halloween pumpkin as a helmet, sit on a 5 gallon ice cream bucket, and goto the track, because hey. where's the safety documents saying that isnt' safe?
The fact is we are all assuming they have not tested anything and assume that there made fragile or are weak. Well friend I am not here to assume, idk if they tested the seat or not, thus is why I am testing it and posting up what I find. Also idk what you mean by "save a few bucks" but the diff in price for the real BRIDE CF and this is about 2,000$. Would have really pissed me off to find out it fits the way it does with the helm guards. This way I am finding out what I like sharing what I find out and don't drop tons of $$$ down the drain cuss I can only test real BRIDE seats.
04-14-2010, 02:08 PM
#100
there are several different standards that seat manufacturers build to. depending on what they are for. typically race seats are built to and get certified to FIA Homologation. FIA is the international non-profit organization that strives to create safety standards for automobiles. most sactioning racing bodies require the safety equipment used be FIA certified.
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/Pages/HomePage.aspx
there is also TUV
http://www.tuv.com/us/en/index.html
Racing harnesses have SFI, helmets have snell.. there are a bunch of others.
some people then claim: this isn't a race car. it's a street car. well for that matter, i would be even more stringent on safety for a road-going car. race cars have roll cages for further impact resistance. if you have a 'pretty' seat that is blinged out carbon, but a POS structuraly, god help you. Its not your stupidity that will test the seat, it's the guy that doesnt see you at the intersection.
i'll bet you that AD res won't answer you on your inquiry on safety crash tests because crash testing takes $10000s to do, and no way a knock off company is going to goto that trouble in doing so...these seats are made in china, with most likely a spray on FRP matting, and two layers of CF with heavy gel coat over it. oh yea, the side mounting on real race seats are reinforced inside so your side mount brackets will stay in place once they are installed... the KO china pieces? its probably a threaded press in rivet with zero reinforcement. a manufacturing AFTERTHOUGHT.
good luck to you all if you follow this path. the only thing that seat is good for is the Gran Turismo simulator in your living room
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/Pages/HomePage.aspx
there is also TUV
http://www.tuv.com/us/en/index.html
Racing harnesses have SFI, helmets have snell.. there are a bunch of others.
some people then claim: this isn't a race car. it's a street car. well for that matter, i would be even more stringent on safety for a road-going car. race cars have roll cages for further impact resistance. if you have a 'pretty' seat that is blinged out carbon, but a POS structuraly, god help you. Its not your stupidity that will test the seat, it's the guy that doesnt see you at the intersection.
i'll bet you that AD res won't answer you on your inquiry on safety crash tests because crash testing takes $10000s to do, and no way a knock off company is going to goto that trouble in doing so...these seats are made in china, with most likely a spray on FRP matting, and two layers of CF with heavy gel coat over it. oh yea, the side mounting on real race seats are reinforced inside so your side mount brackets will stay in place once they are installed... the KO china pieces? its probably a threaded press in rivet with zero reinforcement. a manufacturing AFTERTHOUGHT.
good luck to you all if you follow this path. the only thing that seat is good for is the Gran Turismo simulator in your living room
From my understanding they are the same as a BRIDE seat but since they saved huge on not getting 6 yr FIA certs and testing to make an original product, that is why they are cheaper in $$$. et I have searched and only found good things about them so I tried it out.