Racing Harnesses / Harness Bars
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Oh come on, we've all had our fun on the streets at one point or another :P Instead of spending money on the harnesses, what about trading someone for their cloth seats + cash? Saves you *in general* about $1k and you get to stick to your seat
I dunno; never had leather after my Celica cuz I had the exact feeling you're describing, so perhaps my advice does not apply due to something stupid like airbag sensors or heated seats...but it is possibly an option.
I dunno; never had leather after my Celica cuz I had the exact feeling you're describing, so perhaps my advice does not apply due to something stupid like airbag sensors or heated seats...but it is possibly an option.
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The thing about aftermarket seats though is that you'd still need the harnesses. I mean if money is no issue or you plan on actually racing, by all means go ahead. But for simple street driving I can say my '06 cloth seats grip just fine.
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I can't believe this conversation is even happening.
A 215lb man should have not have the problem of sliding around in a leather seat. Even the leather seats are semi-bolstered.
A 215lb man should have not have the problem of sliding around in a leather seat. Even the leather seats are semi-bolstered.
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If you want to stay in your seats better, IMHO, new seats should be what you look at. Yes, more expensive than harnesses/harness bar, but the new seats would be 1. legal (harnesses in a street car may not be legal everywhere), and 2. accept the factory seat belt and 3. safer - remember, a factory seatbelt has the ability to tension itself when needed, which is not something a harness can do.
I know what you mean about moving around in the factory seat. They are nicer than many factory seats, but hardly grippy vs many of the aftermarket seats. Leather makes it worse. Factory seats are geared towards being comfortable for the widest range of potential buyers.
I know what you mean about moving around in the factory seat. They are nicer than many factory seats, but hardly grippy vs many of the aftermarket seats. Leather makes it worse. Factory seats are geared towards being comfortable for the widest range of potential buyers.
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What is so wrong with putting four point harnesses on a street car? I live down some really fun roads to drive and generally there isn't anyone on it. Even if you take the curves at the speed limit you still slide in your seat. So if a pair of seats and some harnesses would fix that, then what is wrong with it? It's the person that owns that gets to decide what they do with it...stop bashing and grow up.
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What is so wrong with putting four point harnesses on a street car? I live down some really fun roads to drive and generally there isn't anyone on it. Even if you take the curves at the speed limit you still slide in your seat. So if a pair of seats and some harnesses would fix that, then what is wrong with it? It's the person that owns that gets to decide what they do with it...stop bashing and grow up.
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Yeah, I know what 4 point harnesses feel like. I ran them for 2-3 years, on the street. I just left the shoulders a little loose, since I wasn't driving like a maniac on the streets. I didn't see a point of having two types of seat belts (factory and 4 point) in my car since I ran autocross twice a month (sometimes more). So when I went to race I would tighten them up.
Personally, I wouldn't do it to my 350z. But, I respect whatever someone else wants to do to their ride. It's their vehicle you know...
Personally, I wouldn't do it to my 350z. But, I respect whatever someone else wants to do to their ride. It's their vehicle you know...
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Yeah, I know what 4 point harnesses feel like. I ran them for 2-3 years, on the street. I just left the shoulders a little loose, since I wasn't driving like a maniac on the streets. I didn't see a point of having two types of seat belts (factory and 4 point) in my car since I ran autocross twice a month (sometimes more). So when I went to race I would tighten them up.
Personally, I wouldn't do it to my 350z. But, I respect whatever someone else wants to do to their ride. It's their vehicle you know...
Personally, I wouldn't do it to my 350z. But, I respect whatever someone else wants to do to their ride. It's their vehicle you know...
Leaving the shoulders a little loose, completely defeats the purpose, and effectiveness of the harness in the event you actually hit something. It's a bit like banging the town ho and leaving the condoms on the nightstand...only to complain about child support payments 9 months down the road
Many brand harnesses are offered in clip in type - you clip them in when you have an event, you unclip them when you don't. Literally takes under 2 minutes to do to both sides. Combined with at mininum, a harness bar, and now you've actually got a setup worth something.
Sure, it's "their vehicle" - but people presumably ask questions on these forums because they don't know the answers. Or they want confirmation for what the right answer is. That is where the experience of others can help teach people the right and wrong way to do things. Knowledge and experience benefits everyone. Why do we have to respect, or even ackowledge people making potentially stupid and unsafe decisions about their car? By that same token, we should advocate people running oil lines on top of exhaust and intake manifolds. Afterall, it's their car right?
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