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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 09:14 AM
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He guys since the Z is getting ready for the bad weather and I'm bored I'm going to rewire some stuff.

I put in kinda demon eyes when I blacked out and customized my 05 lights( yes I know it doesn't look like a demon eye, but it looks cool and I got it down how to do it on the 06 lights I will be ordering) anywho I wired these lights to the battery and have them on a switch just for the mean time. I also have the leds in my trunk around my custom fiberglass trunk

I am going to add a little red led in the door handles that I will wire into the headlamp so when I click my remote the door handles will glow red.

This is what I would like that I'm pretty sure I will have to use a relay.... I want to be able to have the "demon eye" and door led light when I use my lock/unlock button, which I can just wire them both to the interior head lamp( or so that's what I have read) I want to be able to have only the demon eyes and the trunk lights work off a switch also. I don't so much care if the door handle lights can go on this switch also but what I do want is for my interior lights to stay off if that makes sense. If I wire these all to the interior head lamp I can use the switch that controls the head lamp to control all the lights but than the interior lights are also on. I basically want the handles and the demon eyes to light when I hit the remote as well as be able to work them from a switch while keeping the rest of the car dark.
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 09:24 AM
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i got lost in your paragraph

Basically the BCM provides a ground output for the body lighting. You will need to find the pins in the FSM and wire +12 to leds and let the bcm provide the ground. Then if you want to turn on other lights in funky scenarios you will need some Normaly open switches or relays.

What all youre asking for is probably doable but the more scenarios you throw in there the harder it will be to do.

List out exactly what you want to turn on and when and well go from there.
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 09:58 AM
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i got lost in your paragraph

Basically the BCM provides a ground output for the body lighting. You will need to find the pins in the FSM and wire +12 to leds and let the bcm provide the ground. Then if you want to turn on other lights in funky scenarios you will need some Normaly open switches or relays.

What all youre asking for is probably doable but the more scenarios you throw in there the harder it will be to do.

List out exactly what you want to turn on and when and well go from there.
Thanks much for the reply sorry started rambling on lol
What I would like:
Demon eyes, door handles to be activated when I use the remote to lock and unlock the doors.

I would also like the demon eyes, trunk lights to be able to work off a switch as well. I don't care if the door handles are on this switch as well if it makes things a little easier

Thanks for the help I figure anything can be done just a matter of making things harder for myself bc I'm picky with my baby
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Old Dec 14, 2013 | 02:29 PM
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ok. Easy enough. Should only be one BCM output. Not sure if there is a separate output for the flashers (which flash when you lock/unlock) so you may not be able to separate the demon eye too easily while your blinkers are going. (i think the lights that flash with your key fob are your blinkers right?)

I dont have my FSM with me since I am traveling for work but I know where to find one online.

What you will need to be able to wire a relay that can switch ground. Form C type would do it. Wire the NC contact to the bcm output and the no to ground. Energize the relay with your manual switch which will turn on the lights. When your manual switch is in the off position the lights will flash with the flashers output. You can also use another switch as a complete disable so that the lights dont come on at all.

Now the cool part would be to use the ignition on/engine running signal of some sort that would disable your bcm output from turning the demon eye lights on (which are most likely illegal) unless you have your manual switch on. Ill draw you a quick schematic tonight if I get off work in time.

Also as a precaution you may want to limit the current sink going to the BCM.

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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 11:50 AM
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ok. Easy enough. Should only be one BCM output. Not sure if there is a separate output for the flashers (which flash when you lock/unlock) so you may not be able to separate the demon eye too easily while your blinkers are going. (i think the lights that flash with your key fob are your blinkers right?)

I dont have my FSM with me since I am traveling for work but I know where to find one online.

What you will need to be able to wire a relay that can switch ground. Form C type would do it. Wire the NC contact to the bcm output and the no to ground. Energize the relay with your manual switch which will turn on the lights. When your manual switch is in the off position the lights will flash with the flashers output. You can also use another switch as a complete disable so that the lights dont come on at all.

Now the cool part would be to use the ignition on/engine running signal of some sort that would disable your bcm output from turning the demon eye lights on (which are most likely illegal) unless you have your manual switch on. Ill draw you a quick schematic tonight if I get off work in time.

Also as a precaution you may want to limit the current sink going to the BCM.
Wow that is an awesome reply. Thank you very much. I'm getting much better with my circuits, but I'm a biologist not an engineer lol. I have what you had in my head as an idea but having never done or seen it before if you were to hook it up with a diagram would be amazing. I have to edit my original post though i was referring to the dome light as the head lamp ( been a long week)

I have read about a few people that wired up there added on lighting whether be demon eyes or handles they wired it to the interior dome light( idk why I was referring to it as head lamp) being that when ever the key fob is activated to lock or unlock the this lamp is turned on than dims off. ( I think I left out that I want them to added lights to dim off and think I confused wiring things to work light the headlights rather than the dome light inside the car)

I have also read to grab the ground from the factory arm/disarm at the BCM ( this seems it would the same like you were explaining about using the flasher ground but using the arm/disarm instead.

The people that I read about using the first method said it was easier than dealing with color diagrams and bending under the dash to get the BCM bc you know the wires you want are activating the dome light

I think this changes things up a little but as far as wiring up the relay it's pretty much the same. I think if you can hook it up with a diagram of that ill be able to see exactly what the relay is doing also ( I'm the type of guy that really likes to learn how the things I do are working. I understand the relay is basically changing what is grounded and when it's ground so that it can be activated by completing the circuit. So rather than the device being activated by providing +12v to a a switch that is grounded the +12v is always there but what is being grounded is what changes?? Is that kind of right?
Thanks again for all the help and schooling
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Hadnt forgot about you. Still working on the details.
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 08:27 PM
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Hadnt forgot about you. Still working on the details.
Awesome. Really apprciate it. I will pay it forward as always
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Heres what I got so far. I need to sure up some things, get wire colors.
Showed optional flashers relay.
You would need 3 relays and a a switch with isolated NO and NC contacts. Can be a relay if you cannot find the switch. Easy to wire up but just more wires.

The demon eyes will come on when the dome light is on from the BCM only. Not when the dome light switch is in the ON or OFF position.
The demon eyse will come on with the turn signals/flasher for the left hand side when the car ignition switch is not in the start or on position ( running)
When the car is running only your manual switch will turn the lights on
Manual switch can turn lights on or disable the lights from turning on with flashers/dome lights.



Not liable for damage. Check all wires for potentials. Verify no shorts to ground.

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Thanks so much for the in depth drawing.
Just a few questions.. I got the idea for this off someone else's project that posted on this board.
They wired LEDs in the door handles directly to the dome light so that when the fob is unlocked/locked the door led will dime off like the dome light. (Everytime he turns his dome light on both lights come on, if just uses the left light the left led goes on the same happens for the right.)

I would like mine to do the same thing except have my demon eyes work with it as well, and be able to control everything off a switch as well so I don't I can work these independently of dome light as well.

Thank you so much again, what is an NO NC switch? I'm aware of this in a Relay but not switches like a said I'm far from an electric guy but I read and teach myself
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Old Dec 22, 2013 | 07:42 AM
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ok back to the drawing board!

I work in an industry where we buy 2 position switches and we can configure the contacts. NO is normally open and NC is normally closed. So if the switch is in the normal position, lets call it up, then the 1st contact set is open and the 2nd is closed. When you toggle the switch to the down position the 1st contact set closes while the 2nd contact set opens.

The issue with our dome light is a lot of the wiring is internal to the switch and assembly and not readily available to tap into. I believe on 3 wires go to the dome assembly. Power, normal ground and bcm output (which is ground). BCM monitors the doors and then closes its ground output. It might be doable but you should look at your dome light assembly first.
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Old Dec 22, 2013 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Cux350z
ok back to the drawing board!

I work in an industry where we buy 2 position switches and we can configure the contacts. NO is normally open and NC is normally closed. So if the switch is in the normal position, lets call it up, then the 1st contact set is open and the 2nd is closed. When you toggle the switch to the down position the 1st contact set closes while the 2nd contact set opens.

The issue with our dome light is a lot of the wiring is internal to the switch and assembly and not readily available to tap into. I believe on 3 wires go to the dome assembly. Power, normal ground and bcm output (which is ground). BCM monitors the doors and then closes its ground output. It might be doable but you should look at your dome light assembly first.
Wow thank you so much for the time your putting in to help me out. I'm just going off what I read about the dome light like I said I'm far from experienced with complecated circuits and using the basic physics knowledge to read the diagrams.

I started this like a year ago when I had time and do remember pulling the dome light out and was confused with the wiring bc I think there were 3 wires that all showed the same charge at the same time. The thread on this site shows the whole assembly pulled out and the guy wired it directly to each side of the dome light ( wired the left LED to the left map light, the right led to the right map light. So that if he pushed in the one side that led. Would light and if he used the switch on the dome light to turn both on it activated both)

I'm going to try and post a link to that on here so you can see what he did, I'm doing this from my phone so bare with me lol

But you deff seem to know your stuff so whatever you think is best and easiest to do while getting it close to the way I want is cool with me
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Its do able you would have to tap into the socket on the right side of where the bulbs plug in.

the three wires are the 1 hot and two grounds most likely. I think purple, black and red.
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Its do able you would have to tap into the socket on the right side of where the bulbs plug in.

the three wires are the 1 hot and two grounds most likely. I think purple, black and red.
And than from there ill have to hook up relays right?

Do I have this correct?
The hot in the dome light is always hot and when the light is off it's not grounded. When it's switched to the on position on of the wires that's ground is activated to complete the circuit thus lighting the dome light. And the same is for when it's set to doors that it becomes grounded when the doors open?
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correct about the hot. Depending on the position of the switch (door, on off) ground can be provided from the pressing of the clear plastic light switch for each side or from the BCM. I think that if you put it in the off position that neither option works.

My z is not in front of me ( been at shop for 3 months or so) or I would go test this.

The issue is getting the ground signal that press of the clear lense button activates. If you can get that can wire the relay in parallel to the +12 and ground an have the demon lights activate off that as well.

Ill draw it up when i get back from the holidays.
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correct about the hot. Depending on the position of the switch (door, on off) ground can be provided from the pressing of the clear plastic light switch for each side or from the BCM. I think that if you put it in the off position that neither option works.

My z is not in front of me ( been at shop for 3 months or so) or I would go test this.

The issue is getting the ground signal that press of the clear lense button activates. If you can get that can wire the relay in parallel to the +12 and ground an have the demon lights activate off that as well.

Ill draw it up when i get back from the holidays.
Thanks very much. Merry Xmas
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sorry dude, busy with work. Ill revisit this on thurs or fri
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sorry dude, busy with work. Ill revisit this on thurs or fri
Sick bro no worries take your time just seeing if anyone was out there still lol
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