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Old 08-13-2006, 06:39 PM
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For most on this forum, it is annoying to find new (or veteran) users post "reposts."

Often, however, I've come to find that while the search function is very useful, it is also sometimes too broad and irrelevant. Granted, using the appropriate search key words is essential to good results, it is frustrating when I sift through pages on a thread, sifting through all the BS, all the irrelevant info, then finally seeing some words highlighted in red that are completely out of context with what I was searching for.

In short, I have two questions (one directed to the moderators):

1) Is there a way to make the search function more relevant to the search query?

2) Does anyone else find it frustrating, or am I misguided?

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Old 08-13-2006, 06:43 PM
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Haha, I totally agree with your post. The search feature on this forum leaves a lot to be desired.
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Search works best if limited to a particular forum.

I believe ambiguous words such as best are not searchable.
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lol yea i noticed if u search the whole site random **** pops up
best to search in a specific forum
Old 08-13-2006, 09:07 PM
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Sweet, I thought I was retarded.
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Originally Posted by hwood
Sweet, I thought I was retarded.

so does half the members on this site
Old 08-13-2006, 09:14 PM
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There should be a "sort by least amount of BS" checkbox LOL
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I would like to see a posts with photos only option.
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Originally Posted by davidv
I would like to see a posts with photos only option.
+1 on this...i've found myself in this situation many times. I'm a pretty big searcher and spend hours at a time looking for exactly what I want (I actually read through a 40 page thread on a honda forum just to find more pictures of a racing seat I am buying). So the picture idea would help alot.
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Even though I can often search for something after someone says, "Don't flame I searched!", and find many valid results, I do believe the search function leaves something TBD. For example,

I think some search engines you can say SEARCH: "injen" and "exhaust" and "clip" if you are looking for a soundclip of the Injen SES Exhaust. It will bring up only results with ALL THREE words searched. However, I don't believe the "and" / "or" functions work on this search engine. So, basically you can search "Injen" , "SES", "Exhaust", etc., get a million results, and sift through 3 pages until you find the clip.

It is somewhat helpful limiting your search to "Search in Titles Only", as opposed to entire threads. That cuts out some of the BS, but not enough.

EDIT: I search "Injen" and "Clip" in titles only mode and I came up with 5 pages of results. Many exhaust soundclip threads, but I still need to page 5 pages of results to find the one related to injen (if it even exists).

Clean this search function up and we wouldn't have so many newbs claiming, "I searched and did not find."

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Old 08-14-2006, 08:34 AM
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I do believe you have access to both boolean and natural language searching as premier members do.

This has been covered a lot, the server can NOT handle everyone doing boolean searches all day long. To do this I would have to split the DB to two machines and replicate changes off to the slave server. Then configure the search to do searches off the replication server only. This is a major change that is not overnight and very straightforward.

We will get there but you are talking a large chunk of cash just in the hardware itself.

Originally Posted by Silkk
Even though I can often search for something after someone says, "Don't flame I searched!", and find many valid results, I do believe the search function leaves something TBD. For example,

I think some search engines you can say SEARCH: "injen" and "exhaust" and "clip" if you are looking for a soundclip of the Injen SES Exhaust. It will bring up only results with ALL THREE words searched. However, I don't believe the "and" / "or" functions work on this search engine. So, basically you can search "Injen" , "SES", "Exhaust", etc., get a million results, and sift through 3 pages until you find the clip.

It is somewhat helpful limiting your search to "Search in Titles Only", as opposed to entire threads. That cuts out some of the BS, but not enough.

EDIT: I search "Injen" and "Clip" in titles only mode and I came up with 5 pages of results. Many exhaust soundclip threads, but I still need to page 5 pages of results to find the one related to injen (if it even exists).

Clean this search function up and we wouldn't have so many newbs claiming, "I searched and did not find."
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I never noticed the Boolean search (I never even really thought to look for it after becoming premier) until you mentioned it...
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So wait, is there any way to ensure that a search brings back ONLY threads with ALL the words you specified?

Like I searched for "greddy emanage ultimate parameters" and like 99% of the threads didn't have "parameters" anywhere.
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i think it wouldn't be as bad of an issue if people didn't get **** everytime they posted something that is supposed to be found with a search.
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https://my350z.com/forum/search.php

Change your search type to boolean, this is only available to premium members due to the strain on server at this time.

http://library.albany.edu/internet/boolean.html

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Originally Posted by silvrhand
I do believe you have access to both boolean and natural language searching as premier members do.

This has been covered a lot, the server can NOT handle everyone doing boolean searches all day long. To do this I would have to split the DB to two machines and replicate changes off to the slave server. Then configure the search to do searches off the replication server only. This is a major change that is not overnight and very straightforward.

We will get there but you are talking a large chunk of cash just in the hardware itself.
I'm glad I was on the right track with my suggestion.
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Yeah the boolean search ftw. Anyone who is not a premier member...now's your chance
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+1...

The search option used to be MUCH better before.
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