Turbo Build
02-21-2005, 11:58 AM
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Turbo Build
I havent been on the board in a while and i wanted to get the advice of the pros that have been F/I for a while.
Here is my situation, I plan on going F/I in the summer with either the turbonetics Sinlge or the Aps Single, my goal is to have the car running right with Tune and with some bolt ons running 360rwhp at low boost (5-7psi) and 420rwhp at high boost(9-10)
here is my question, What will i need aside from the kit (Turbo, fmic, fuel pump, injectors, emanage) to make sure i dont go boom when i am in the process of running highboost on times that i feel the need to?
After F/I I plan on test pipes & headers to make a lil more breathing room. As of now i am leaning towards turbonetics for 2 reasons, install is not super complicated, and i hear that Aps is going to replace the fuel system.
Suggestions, Thoughts?
-Mason
Here is my situation, I plan on going F/I in the summer with either the turbonetics Sinlge or the Aps Single, my goal is to have the car running right with Tune and with some bolt ons running 360rwhp at low boost (5-7psi) and 420rwhp at high boost(9-10)
here is my question, What will i need aside from the kit (Turbo, fmic, fuel pump, injectors, emanage) to make sure i dont go boom when i am in the process of running highboost on times that i feel the need to?
After F/I I plan on test pipes & headers to make a lil more breathing room. As of now i am leaning towards turbonetics for 2 reasons, install is not super complicated, and i hear that Aps is going to replace the fuel system.
Suggestions, Thoughts?
-Mason
02-21-2005, 12:28 PM
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Re: Turbo Build
Originally posted by NissanJunkie
I havent been on the board in a while and i wanted to get the advice of the pros that have been F/I for a while.
Here is my situation, I plan on going F/I in the summer with either the turbonetics Sinlge or the Aps Single, my goal is to have the car running right with Tune and with some bolt ons running 360rwhp at low boost (5-7psi) and 420rwhp at high boost(9-10)
here is my question, What will i need aside from the kit (Turbo, fmic, fuel pump, injectors, emanage) to make sure i dont go boom when i am in the process of running highboost on times that i feel the need to?
After F/I I plan on test pipes & headers to make a lil more breathing room. As of now i am leaning towards turbonetics for 2 reasons, install is not super complicated, and i hear that Aps is going to replace the fuel system.
Suggestions, Thoughts?
-Mason
I havent been on the board in a while and i wanted to get the advice of the pros that have been F/I for a while.
Here is my situation, I plan on going F/I in the summer with either the turbonetics Sinlge or the Aps Single, my goal is to have the car running right with Tune and with some bolt ons running 360rwhp at low boost (5-7psi) and 420rwhp at high boost(9-10)
here is my question, What will i need aside from the kit (Turbo, fmic, fuel pump, injectors, emanage) to make sure i dont go boom when i am in the process of running highboost on times that i feel the need to?
After F/I I plan on test pipes & headers to make a lil more breathing room. As of now i am leaning towards turbonetics for 2 reasons, install is not super complicated, and i hear that Aps is going to replace the fuel system.
Suggestions, Thoughts?
-Mason
02-21-2005, 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by dansouliere
The only guarantee in life is death.. lol
Just make sure you can afford to replace the engine if she blows.
The only guarantee in life is death.. lol
Just make sure you can afford to replace the engine if she blows.
02-21-2005, 02:27 PM
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Do a search for "forged internals" in the FI section, and you'll see the precautions that other FI guys are taking in building up their engines. Sure it's not *mandatory* that you build it up, but it will give you peace of mind and a long engine life.
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The kit will come with most of what you will need. I believe it even comes with a BOV, but don't quote me on that. A FMIC is a must in Texas, but I am sure it is part of the kit as well.
Outside of the kit, I would get test pipes, and possibly an exhaust. Consider addressing timing issues with the J&S Knock Sensor, Greddy e-Manage with ignition harness or a TS reflash.
You may want to pick up the latest issue of Turbo. The Turbonetics Z put down 365 whp at 8 psi. I would not run it much above 8psi with stock internals. At least not until a couple other Tubonetics cars have pushed that envelope. 365 whp syill feels real fast .....for a little while.
Outside of the kit, I would get test pipes, and possibly an exhaust. Consider addressing timing issues with the J&S Knock Sensor, Greddy e-Manage with ignition harness or a TS reflash.
You may want to pick up the latest issue of Turbo. The Turbonetics Z put down 365 whp at 8 psi. I would not run it much above 8psi with stock internals. At least not until a couple other Tubonetics cars have pushed that envelope. 365 whp syill feels real fast .....for a little while.
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Just to clear some things up:
Turbonetics kit has a fuel pump, 380cc injectors, and new fuel lines. It addresses timing through a Turbonetics ECU reflash.
APS will most likely use the same fuel system and the same piggyback that is in their TT kits.
If you get the Turbonetics, you will be able to upgrade headers as they do not include new exhaust manifolds in their kit, but, the aftermarket headers have to be the same size as the stock headers. Also, if you want a true-dual exhaust...you're going to need to make a custom reverse y-pipe.
If you get the APS, you will have a new exhaust manifold and won't have to buy headers. You will have to do the same as what I mentioned for the Turbonetics, either go with a y-pipe setup or if you go true-dual...make a reverse y-pipe.
I imagine the APS will be the better package for most people, just like it is with their TT kit.
I just think the Turbonetics is the better choice for someone who wants more flexibility (able to choose your own fuel/engine management and upgrade the fuel system how you wish).
And one more thing, Turbonetics kit has 2 different models: kit with high flow cat, kit with downpipe. And, the tuner version will be available soon. As well as the G35 coupe kit (will be shipping before March 26th).
Turbonetics kit has a fuel pump, 380cc injectors, and new fuel lines. It addresses timing through a Turbonetics ECU reflash.
APS will most likely use the same fuel system and the same piggyback that is in their TT kits.
If you get the Turbonetics, you will be able to upgrade headers as they do not include new exhaust manifolds in their kit, but, the aftermarket headers have to be the same size as the stock headers. Also, if you want a true-dual exhaust...you're going to need to make a custom reverse y-pipe.
If you get the APS, you will have a new exhaust manifold and won't have to buy headers. You will have to do the same as what I mentioned for the Turbonetics, either go with a y-pipe setup or if you go true-dual...make a reverse y-pipe.
I imagine the APS will be the better package for most people, just like it is with their TT kit.
I just think the Turbonetics is the better choice for someone who wants more flexibility (able to choose your own fuel/engine management and upgrade the fuel system how you wish).
And one more thing, Turbonetics kit has 2 different models: kit with high flow cat, kit with downpipe. And, the tuner version will be available soon. As well as the G35 coupe kit (will be shipping before March 26th).
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02-21-2005, 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by t32gzz
The kit will come with most of what you will need. I believe it even comes with a BOV, but don't quote me on that. A FMIC is a must in Texas, but I am sure it is part of the kit as well.
Outside of the kit, I would get test pipes, and possibly an exhaust. Consider addressing timing issues with the J&S Knock Sensor, Greddy e-Manage with ignition harness or a TS reflash.
You may want to pick up the latest issue of Turbo. The Turbonetics Z put down 365 whp at 8 psi. I would not run it much above 8psi with stock internals. At least not until a couple other Tubonetics cars have pushed that envelope. 365 whp syill feels real fast .....for a little while.
The kit will come with most of what you will need. I believe it even comes with a BOV, but don't quote me on that. A FMIC is a must in Texas, but I am sure it is part of the kit as well.
Outside of the kit, I would get test pipes, and possibly an exhaust. Consider addressing timing issues with the J&S Knock Sensor, Greddy e-Manage with ignition harness or a TS reflash.
You may want to pick up the latest issue of Turbo. The Turbonetics Z put down 365 whp at 8 psi. I would not run it much above 8psi with stock internals. At least not until a couple other Tubonetics cars have pushed that envelope. 365 whp syill feels real fast .....for a little while.
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Not sure if it comes with the flash for 8psi, but the Turbo article made it sound like it did. Interesting note, they said the car made more power with a stock exhaust than an after market.
They did not mention the after market exhaust mfg. but did say they would try others to see if they had the same result.
They did not mention the after market exhaust mfg. but did say they would try others to see if they had the same result.
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Originally posted by dansouliere
The only guarantee in life is death.. lol
Just make sure you can afford to replace the engine if she blows.
The only guarantee in life is death.. lol
Just make sure you can afford to replace the engine if she blows.
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