Originally Posted by APS

Mia, the photograph was taken from a particular angle to show the relevant components clearly. I can see how you could mistakenly believe that the turbocharger assembly is low, but this is definitely not the case.

The safety of the turbocharger and its associated components from road debris should be of no concern at all - and the engineering/testing conducted by APS further supports this.

As Peter has already stated, you would need to do significant damage to the underside of the car (crushing rails and sheet metal) before going anywhere near the turbocharger.

George

Originally Posted by APS

Mia, let me say it again but in a different way. The crossmember, side rails and a plethora of stock components sit well below the turbocharger. To damage the turbocharger you would have to completely destroy these components first. In addition, if you did damage these components so badly that the turbocharger came into contact with the speed hump, sufficient energy will have already been absorbed in destroying the underside of the car to limit the impact energy upon the turbocharger - which after all is a massive and very robust ni-resist casting.

I think that you're trying to create an issue where it does not exist in the real world.

George

Originally Posted by APS

I get your point very clearly though if the decision is between an insufficiently sized down pipe ( around 2.75'' which will limit the future power potential of the engine) and very high under hood temperature versus slightly less ground clearance to the large 3.5'' engine pipe and a much cooler engine compartment then I'll go with the slightly lower down pipe all day, every day, just my 2 cents worth.


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Peter

Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA

Sorry but the pics you have just don't support that statement. I'll be happy to take a measurement for you. Although I must say that I am MORE then happy having a 3" downpipe as opposed to:

(A) Scraping and banging my turbine housing against speed bumps

(B) Having nice cold water splash onto my turbine housing during operation

(C) Having something snag my water feed

(D) Having to worry about ANOTHER pump and point of failure

(E) Having an huge heat source parked right next to the one item in the Z that has been shown to fail over and again (read transmission)

Originally Posted by APS

Miaplaya I have a lot more faith in our engineering staff (between them they have over 200 years of turbo system design experience) than you and I'll put my faith in this experience all day every day, no problem at all.

I'll look forward to seing you confirm the 2.75'' down pipe from the top mounted turbocharger system, this is something that APS would NEVER compromise on, after all all of the exhaust gas is being routed through this small and under sized down pipe, not clever in my view, that's basic engineering

Have a good day.

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Peter

Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA

Hmm something tells me that you have ZERO idea how big the pipe is on the Turbonetics kit. Oh and thats great I'm sure your engineering staff is well versed and all but no amount of knowledge in turbocharging can make reality a Peter Pan World (no pun intended) where everything is as you wish. I've said it again and again... FROM THE PICS YOU CURRENTLY HAVE IT LOOKS LIKE THE TURBINE HOUSING IS AT LEAST AS LOW AS THE STOCK CATS. IF THIS IS THE CASE DAMAGE FROM ROAD DEBRIS/SPEED BUMPS, ETC IS VERY POSSIBLE. I HAVE PICS OF MY STOCK CATS TO PROVE THIS

Originally Posted by APS

Miaplaya, Some pics coming your way very soon to clarify your misconception, hope you enjoy.

Thanks

Peter

Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA

Waiting.....

Originally Posted by APS

Coming your way soon mia, in the interim why don't you confirm the size of your down pipe?

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Peter

Originally Posted by APS

Miaplaya, Some pics coming your way very soon to clarify your misconception, hope you enjoy.

Originally Posted by APS

I hope that the above pictures satisfy your concerns regarding turbo placement Mia.

George

Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA

Well lets see since you obviously only post info about your own company you must have missed the fact that my car is in the body shop right now. I'm sure I could leave work and interrupt their repair work but thats not going to happen. But since you are interested I did confirm that it is a 3" downpipe. And no not from Turbonetics. I cannot tell you where precisely it was measured as I am not there and cannot get there before they close.

Originally Posted by APS

I'll give you a tip, Might be worth while measuring your down pipe with a vernier calliper.

Where the down pipe goes past the exhaust manifold, unless imperial measurements are different in the US I'm positive you will find the diameter is only 2.75 inches.

Let me know when you measure the pipe accurately.

Thanks

Peter

Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA

BTW might I commend you on jumping onto another thread specifically titled "Turbonetics Kit" and dropping your product around. Again I LOVE the way you do business.