Very true...I dont think Turbonetics used THAT perticular approach..

 

I think what MIA and others are concerened are about this... PARDON MY CHEESY DRAWING...




As you can see from the image, just by taking a picture of the view of the car and what doesn't appear on the image doesn't mean it will not come in contact. Bumps, even debri's on the road are very dangerous... A friend of mine got a hole threw his oil pan by hitting a rock at 75mph. Rocks jump and also other debri like bent pipes, etc... As you can see from the picture the bump is shaped in an angle where it would hit the turbo or say even if their was an L shape pipe on the floor. Its the little things that you need to worry. Your looking at it from a perfect angle, and if you know a lot about turbo's than you must know about a HONDA B16, well I had turbo (greddy) and got plenty of debri that hit the turbo. And do you know how FAR AWAY it is, it litereally sits inside the engine bay, I highly doubt your "stress" tests even come close to California road (U HAVE NO IDEA). I love APS TT kit, and I def looking forward to your single turbo kit as well. I never was a fan of having the turbon mounted in the engine bay, I think its a HUGE NO NO... But I don't want to see you guys fail either.. So consider this as a positive post not negative...

 

Thanks for that. If I may take the liberty of using your drawing and annotate it, any bump must first smash through the cross member to reach the turbo. In addition, the front rails also cradle the turbo for further protection.



Hope this helps.

George

 

Actually, I think it's already been mentioned that the turbo will include shielding of some sort, let's just wait for the final production design to see if it's protected.

When the final pics come DO out I'm betting the turbo is higher than it appears now. (Maybe they don't take better pics to hide some design element such as pipe routing)

When is the final design going to be out APS? We'd like to see the finished location!

 

Who's the guy in the window?

 

Okay guys, I'll give this one more shot to remove any doubt about the height of the turbocharger.

The following pictures are taken to show the true height of components as viewed from the front and from the rear. It's hard to get the camera in the right position but it's the best I can do - though it does show clearly that the turbocharger is not visible from either angle, meaning that it really is tucked up and out of harm's way.





For you to see the turbo it means that I have to take a snail's eye view from down low - looking up into the cavity formed between the front cross member and the LH rail - that were the original pictures of the APS Intercooled Turbo system posted by Mia.

Hope this helps.

George

 

Shooooot... that ain't all that low!

My only concern now is getting the turbo wet/submerging it... oh and of course saving my pennies to buy it!

Since you're down there taking pics how about some shots of the pipe routing (if you have an engine stand shot that would be gnarly!)???

 

Hoyt Pollard

George

 

I thought I saw James Brown in that car......

 

To do justice to the pictures, the engine and transmission needs to be dropped out of the car, prepared and photographed. We will be doing this towards the end of April so with a little patience, all will be revealed - and it will be worth the wait.

George

 

HAHA!! excellent, that solved now, YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST!! UNDISPUTED KINGS!! HAHA, if I wasn't selling the Z I would be buying your kit GURANTEED!

 

APS,
Can you give us a guess at what the price of your kit will be when it's available? If it's going to be in my price range it sounds like this might be worth waiting for.

 

Well, I guess that all depends on who's point of reference you are looking at it from because each person has their own wants and needs.

Regardless, fierce technical competition makes for a better and more complete product - the consumer benefits. It's also great forums like this that gives everyone the opportunity to discuss, ask questions and raise issues for clarification - again the consumer benefits.

It does mean a lot more work for the people behind the products but hey, that's all part and parcel of participating in this industry.

Thanks though for your kind words Wicked4u2c.

Peter & George

 

BPL,The APS single turbo system will have a very similar MSRP to the tubonetics system and if all goes to plan (MSRP will be finalised over the next 2 weeks) the APS turbo system will be in the US by the end of may 05, maybe a little later depending on when the GT series dual ball bearing turbos arrive from Garrett Japan.

Let me know if you need any other product information.

Thanks

Peter

 

Great Job Peter, I commend you in being very professional throughout this ordeal and taking the time to snap pics for all to see. I'm just sitting here waiting for this turbo to reach our shores.....can u please please get an authorized dealer in FL...it would put my mind at ease greatly..Thanks again

 

Okay.....I'm satisfied. Based on the fact that the car is not my daily driver, it rarely floods in Las Vegas (my Z has never seen rain), and the roads are pretty good here, I'm not going to worry about it any more. I'd just like to get a fairly reliable 400 WHP in my car by the summer and the APS system seems like the best choice for me.

 

Many thanks for you kind words and it's been my pleasure to help the guys out with info pertaining to the APS single turbo system, I really enjoy being involved with the 350Z community, all good fun.

Now the good news is APS will have a number of excellent dealers up and running in Florida over the coming months (I've just been told this today) one of these new dealers is Palm Beach performance a division of Palm Beach Nissan, do you know of this Nissan Dealer?

Thanks

Peter

 

Thats nice to know!! That dealer is on the east coast of FL and im on the west, but its still only a 3hr(195 miles) drive so I'm happy.. Any other places on the west coast you know of....Thanks once again Peter

 

This is the closest APS dealer that I currently know of and I will post contact details if any dealer on the west coast comes on board any time soon.

Thanks

Peter

 

Those pics are better but I certainly would like to see some pics of the actual turbo and its placement.