josh, what are your power goals? If they aren't over 600-650+rwhp...then you don't need any headwork.

 

Without the head package most guys seem to be hitting the wall at about 520rwhp....even with increased boost levels. Those who did not do the heads/cams on the original build are looking at it now to reach the 600hp plateau.

 

I doubt I'll go that far. I think I will be good without it, Im just looking for 450 rwhp at most. Their shortblock sounds like a pretty good deal.

 

I was looking to get the upgraded longblock #1 but noticed the rods said something like Shot peened stock rods. What is that anyways? I want to get it with the Pauter rods. So this package suits me fairly well since I want to get cams as well.

 

Tim, just email Kyle with the parts you want and he'll adjust the costs to fit the parts you want.

 

I have already sent him an email. I will probably give him a call on Monday. He hasn't responded to my email yet.

 

He'll prob. get back to you on Monday.

J/W'ing...what happened with g356gear's? Or are you still considering all options?

 

I was going to do the upgraded long block at SGP but decided to go AEBS, I can get the pistons, rods, 1mm oversized valves and sleeves for the cost of that package. Plus if you have to send the block that's an additional 900 going there and back. Also I hate dealing w/ things like this through emails, rather go to the shop and talk to them in person being so far isn't so convenient.

 

where did you go to get the AEBS kit on your car? Its not the AEBS stroker kit that you are talking about are you? I was thinking about getting the stroker kit myself.

 

It's not the stroker and it's still in the process of so the work has not been completed yet. I just took my long block over there to get the 8.5 compression pistons, pauter rods and 1mm oversized valves and maybe the sleeves but still thinking about it. This is from AEBS not through another shop so I can deal with them directly instead of through another guy. Just do the research before commiting to anything is my advise. I was going to go through sgp previously and they stuck me w/ getting the parts or pay a restocking fee. Also the parts I could of gotten alot cheaper then the price they gave me. They claim to had custom valves made for me per order and they ended up being Ferrea valves. I didn't want to pay the freight of 900 or so that could go to more mods. That's why I say do the research first and then commit to what you want.

 

so are you saying that for the price of an upgraded long block from SGP, you can get internals+sleeves+oversize valves installed and ready to go at AEBS?

 

Yep, I'm getting pistons, rods, and valves installed decision pending on the sleeves I can't decide if I want them or not. But just the mentioned work is like 2700 or a little less then that. Add the sleeves is like another 2000 or so, if you want the cams and the rest of the goodies it'll cost a little more. You do get alot of stuff w/ the upgraded package, but one thing he's far from where I live and I didn't want to fork out 900 on freight there and back when that could go to more mods. Also I can go over to AEBS and check the progress and talk to them in person rather shoot emails back n forth waiting on replies and what not. Not just more convenient but also within my price range so I'm satisfied. Talk to Bill over there he's the one that gave me the quote when I dropped off the engine. Also sgp isn't as cheap as they think they are so shop around for the parts. I can shoot some links over to you of some sites I get parts from or where I've seen for pretty good deal if you like give me your e mail.

 

thanks for the heads up.. it's good to see that there are other companies out there that we can get the same quality work done for more affordable prices. I sometimes think it is too bad we only get exposed to the sponsors of this site if we only cruise the mh350z forums and nothing else. There is actually a lot more quality companies out there that aren't necessarily even aware of my350z forums.

 

JMO...if AEBS can't even install sleeves that don't sink...and they make the sleeves...i'm not going to be letting them touch my motor anytime soon.

 

The SGP packages seem to do a lot more then just replace the pistons and rods. Look at this:
Ultimate short block: $3900 + $1000 core


Block oil passages cleaned
Block redecked
Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate
Crank balanced
Crank journals polished
New Main and Rod bearings w/ceramic coating
Pauter Rods
ARP Rod Bolts
CP Pistons .020 over(8.5:1 or 11.5:1)
*Ceramic coating on Pistons
*ARP Main Studs

Does anyone know if this is overpriced or not?

 

My $.02

You are correct saying "The SGP packages seem to do a lot more then just replace the pistons and rods"

If you want a engine just thrown together then we are not the people to do it. I agree that we are probably not the cheapest in the country but you do get what you pay for in most cases. I don't know how many people have emailed me and said "I wish I had taken to you in the first place". We do things that most places don't. Like ceramic coat the main and rod bearings for strength and heat resistance. We use a torque plate for the boring and honing. Things like this make a difference in the way the engine runs and how long it lasts.
So again...if you are looking for "cheap" and don't care who puts your motor together...then don't send it to us.

 

I don't think any of us would want an engine that is thrown together. Engine building is an area where you should seek no less than the best, which would mean that you do use a torque plate for boring and honing and everything else SGP offers.

But all this does not mean we can't do price shopping among qualified engine builders. Obviously, engine building is a very expensive part of the tuning process, so we are allowed to look into places to get the best deal and get our engines built by one of the best engine builders. Without having direct experience with any of these, I assume that AEBS is more than up to par in this area since their resume suggests so.

 

Personally i have not seen anyone say anything good about AEBS besides the fact that they were closer.

 

What is their resume? I know Greddy's promotional car is on the third AEBS built motor after sunken sleeves and I also know Gurgen's car is apart after only a few months with a AEBS motor.
I have no problems with people shopping multiple sources for pricing. It is a free society. We probably won't be the cheapest and sometimes won't be the most expensive either...

 

Okay my goal is 550-650 but want space to go even higher than that but within a 10K budget after install. What package should I get Kyle. I want space so if I decide to push like 700-800, that there will be enough parts in there to hold up to that much.