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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by cquence 350 [Z]
I was thinking about doing the same package but also wanted to add cams and springs as well. I also was thinking about keeping my stock block and get charged an extra 1000 just in case something happens.
I would also add the retainers.

If it can be afforded keeping a running core would be a good idea, that way if anything happens down the road you wont be down for a long time.

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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by cquence 350 [Z]
I was thinking about doing the same package but also wanted to add cams and springs as well. I also was thinking about keeping my stock block and get charged an extra 1000 just in case something happens.
Don't know when you plan on building, but SGP does not have any blocks currently. You would have to source one and send it to them.
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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by westpak
The valves are that delicate that they bend from 500 rpms more?? hmmmm keep us updated when you tear it down.
Valves dont bend from 7100rpm operation, but they can float and hit the piston. That is the only way I have heard of people bending valves...or VERY severe detonation. The potential, honestly, of floating a stock valve spring at 7100rpm is pretty slim. The Maxima VQ people regularaly increase their rev limit to 7500rpm and beyond on a stock valve train.

But yes, if you plan on running above 7000rpm regularly, springs would and retainers would be a good idea.

Regarding AEBS and their sleeved blocks, I think some of the reputation, at least in the 350Z world, might be undeserved. Gurgen has informed me that his AEBS sleeved block is fine, and did not sink. He is still trying to diagnose what caused his very minor coolant leak. The leak was so small it was undetectable by most traditional means. And Phunk (Charles) has an AEBS sleeved block, and has been tuning it upwards of 500whp without sinkage.

I will say that their stroker kit is a completely different story. A good friend of mine installed the stroker kit, and the crank hit the oil pan!! I have heard of similar difficulities when installing the AEBS Stroker kit.

And don't forget, that if you want sleeves, SGP can also install those as well. Personally, I would be going with Darton, since their design is supposed to be sink proof, and the mid sleeve allows for a more OEM'ish flow of coolant through the heads and block.

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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 10:21 AM
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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Gman2004
I just got a quote to pull and reinstall the motor. If they go by the book it is a 17.5 hour job. My shop charges me $75 because I drop so much cash there, but assuming the $100/hr you stated to pull and reinstall the motor should at the max be $1750.

I am in the process of pulling my motor and shipping the long block to SGP racing. I am going with the Ultimate short block and they are going to assemble it for me. All my shop has to do is pull and reinstall. The Ultimate short block is $3900 and the assemble is another $400. My shop is going to pull and reinstall for $900. I am looking at a total of $5300 not including the shipping back and forth to SGP which is about $500.

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The book calls remove AND reinstall a 17.5 hour job? Not 17.5 each way? Even at $75/hr, the 17.5 hr job is $1312.5. How'd you get to $900? Does that shipping number include the crating/packing? Most places will charge at least $100 to prep a motor for shipment... Regardless, that sounds like a good deal.

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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by amolaver
The book calls remove AND reinstall a 17.5 hour job? Not 17.5 each way? Even at $75/hr, the 17.5 hr job is $1312.5. How'd you get to $900? Does that shipping number include the crating/packing? Most places will charge at least $100 to prep a motor for shipment... Regardless, that sounds like a good deal.

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17.5 hours is what I was told the book says for pull and reinstall, but my shop is only going to charge me $900 because I get so much done there. They also told me to ship the motor it would not be more than $250-$300 each way.
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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by westpak
I would also add the retainers.

If it can be afforded keeping a running core would be a good idea, that way if anything happens down the road you wont be down for a long time.
Thats what I am going to do, get the ultimate short block package but keep the stock block. I will have to call Kyle to see if he will have any more blocks left.
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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by cquence 350 [Z]
Thats what I am going to do, get the ultimate short block package but keep the stock block. I will have to call Kyle to see if he will have any more blocks left.
I spoke with kyle on Friday. He does not have any blocks.
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