Supercharger for 350Z, G35, G35 Coupe by Alpine Developments (NISMO?)
Originally posted by 2003z
There are 2 types of intercoolers, the popular air-to-air, and liquid-to-air. The liquid to air runs through what is similar to a radiator. I had this type on an 85 maserati biturbo I used to own. Not sure which is more efficient though.
There are 2 types of intercoolers, the popular air-to-air, and liquid-to-air. The liquid to air runs through what is similar to a radiator. I had this type on an 85 maserati biturbo I used to own. Not sure which is more efficient though.
In his response to me Steve wrote:
"Again, thank you for your tremendous response, and you should congratulate yourselves! (who says your voice can't be heard?). I will keep all of your inquiries in separate "Nissan" folders, and send you any new "updates" to all of you on each application mentioned above when we have any more information to pass along. In the meantime, don't hesitate to contact us if you should have any other questions or concerns. I look forward to hearing back from you all soon!"
That was in late November. I haven't heard anything since. I'm going to write him again and ask.
"Again, thank you for your tremendous response, and you should congratulate yourselves! (who says your voice can't be heard?). I will keep all of your inquiries in separate "Nissan" folders, and send you any new "updates" to all of you on each application mentioned above when we have any more information to pass along. In the meantime, don't hesitate to contact us if you should have any other questions or concerns. I look forward to hearing back from you all soon!"
That was in late November. I haven't heard anything since. I'm going to write him again and ask.
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Choices... Choices...
If this is indeed available at the end of April, I'm going to have a tough time choosing between the Alpine SC or the GReedy TT.
Seems the GReedy will have the power edge, but its hard to argue with +60whp WITH a drivetrain warranty.
If we're talking 360hp at the flywheel, that puts the Z somewhere around 9.1 to 9.25 lbs/hp. Anyone know some other cars that fall into that power to weight ration???
If this is indeed available at the end of April, I'm going to have a tough time choosing between the Alpine SC or the GReedy TT.
Seems the GReedy will have the power edge, but its hard to argue with +60whp WITH a drivetrain warranty.
If we're talking 360hp at the flywheel, that puts the Z somewhere around 9.1 to 9.25 lbs/hp. Anyone know some other cars that fall into that power to weight ration???
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Import racer has a good write up about Alpine developments on an intstall they did for a Hyundai Tiburan. Seems the company has been around awhile and has been involved with TRD for quite some time. I can scan the article if people are interested and post it.
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I own a Hyundai Tiburon and am planning on the Alpine SC, it gained 50 whp on the Tib with no other bolt ons, the tib gains nearly 17 whp from a cai and exhaust and cai i gained 25 whp, so with this sc i hopeully will see a total of 85-90 whp as all mods make more of a difference on a sc car, but Alpine is a great company which backs thier products very well, my friend has an older Alpine unit it had some probs and Steve from Alpine has bent over backwards to help him out, i would strongly recomend anyone to deal with Alpine
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Bad news???
Originally posted by Dr Bonz
The latest news wasn't favorable. Here is a thread that I posted over at Frenzy.
Alpine SC News
The latest news wasn't favorable. Here is a thread that I posted over at Frenzy.
Alpine SC News
Thanks.
Sure:
Sorry for the delayed reply, but have been waiting for the owners to sort some things out and make some decisions before being able to bring everyone up to date.
As many of you know, word is getting out of our existence, and we have been swamped with e-mail inquiries for over a dozen different forced induction applications since November/December of last year. Based on the number of inquiries received (which we encouraged), informed you that we would be developing forced induction applications for a number of your requested vehicle models near the beginning of the year. We've also been approached by several companies since our announcements, to manufacture forced induction applications O.E., or "private label", and many of our "planned" applications have been changed.
Before you vent any disappointment with our development decisions, please understand that for the past 24 years, 70-80% of Alpine Developments business has been the supplying of O.E. and private label forced inductions kits, and it is the owners intention to do the same here in the U.S.. One more bit of disappointing news, because of the recent global conflicts, and the fluctuation of the exchange rate between the U.S. dollar, and the S. African rand (about 20%), there will be another price increase effective May 1, 2003 (orders placed prior to May 9th, will be honored at the older price). Here's the latest on all of the applications you have been asking about :
HYUNDAI
`96-`00 Elantra/`96-`01 Tiburon (1.8L/2.0L-I4) Turbo w/Intercooler Kit (Beta I engine)
(Off Road & Race Only)
This kit remains unchanged, and still includes the fifth fuel injector and Unichip (except the Unichip tuning has been more refined), and there is no immediate plans to try and get CARB certification on, so will remain as an "Off-road and Race only" kit.
Available: Four (4) kits arriving the end of this April (three already sold!). Otherwise, "special order" allowing two-to-three-weeks shipping time from S.A..
New MSRP: $2900.
`01-`03 Elantra / `03 Tiburon (2.0L-I4) Turbo w/Aqua-cooler Kit (Beta II engine)
(Off Road & Race Only)
The decision was made to bring this kit to market as soon as possible, using the above kit's exhaust manifold and therefore is not going to be CARB certified. We have designed a new more efficient self-contained liquid-to-air "Aqua-cooler" for this kit. This kit will also get the benefit of our own new "black-box" ECU management, doing away with the Unichip. To build this kit to meet CARB certification, would require designing a new exhaust/turbo manifold that utilizes the factory exhaust manifold/catalytic converter (also increasing the cost), and the decision to do so has not been made yet!
Available: July`03.
Est. MSRP: $3000.
`96-`00 Elantra / `96-`01 Tiburon (1.8L/2.0L-I4) Supercharger Kit (Beta I engine)
(Off Road & Race Only)
This kit is still under "re-engineering", and will benefit from our new "black-box" ECU technology, replacing the Unichip. Otherwise, will remain much the same as is.
Available: July / August`03.
New MSRP: $2900.
`01-`03 Elantra / `03 2.0L Tiburon (2.0L-I4) Supercharger Kit (Beta II engine)
(anticipate CARB certification)
We are waiting to test fit the new intake manifold, and will also benefit from our new "black-box" ECU technology, and anticipate no problems on getting CARB certification before releasing for sale (which means our limited "3-Year / 36,000 Mile Power Train Warranty" would apply.
Available: August / September`03.
New MSRP: $3000.
`02-`03 Tiburon / Santa Fe / Sonata / Kia Optima (2.7L-V6) Aqua-cooled Supercharger Kit
(CARB E.O.# D-551-1)
The final version of this kit is in full production now, with only a few minor changes for safety issues (the replacement of the steel braided "cooler" hoses to rubber hose). We may offer some "upgrade" parts for this kit later on, which may include clear plastic covered steel braided hoses and urethane engine mounts. This kit may also be offered without the "Aqua-cooler" and our exclusive limited "3-Year / 36,000 Mile Power Train Warranty" for a reduced price if there is enough of a demand for it. We are just now finishing up the fitment and instructions on the Santa Fe, and will also do the same for the Sonata and Kia Optima in the next couple of months.
NISSAN
`00-`03 Frontier / X-Terra (3.3L-V6) Supercharger Kit
(anticipate CARB certification)
This kit is in the final stages of development, and anticipate if passing CARB, will include the limited "3-Year / 36,000 Power Train Warranty" and optional "extended power train warranty. As we get nearer to the availability date, will know what other year/model applications this should fit. This will still be offered by Alpine Developments.
Available: Late August.
New MSRP: $3000.
`02-`03 Altima / Sentra (SER & V-Spec) (2.5L-I4) Turbo w/Aqua-cooler Kit
(anticipate CARB certification)
While we are still going to develop an aqua-cooled turbo kit for this engine platform, we are in the final stages of negotiations with a company to manufacture this kit "private label" for them, and will not be able to offer this kit to the aftermarket ourselves. Unfortunately, we can not divulge any more information on this application until it is near completion, and have permission from our client to reveal who they are and details of this kit.
`02-`03 Altima / Maxima / `03 350Z / Infiniti G35 /I35 (3.5L-V6) Aqua-cooled Supercharger Kit
(anticipate CARB certification)
Like the above application, this kit will be developed for the same company to sell "private label", and we will not be offering this application to the aftermarket ourselves. As with the above kit, we can not divulge any more information on this application until near completion, and have permission from our client to reveal who they are and the details of this kit.
`95-`01 Maxima (3.0L-V6) Aqua-cooled Supercharger Kit
(anticipate CARB certification)
We've had enough requests for this application to give it serious consideration, but because of the "private label" applications listed (and several not listed), would not be able to start on this until sometime late this fall, or early winter.
`98-`01 Sentra (1.8L-I4) Turbo Kit
(Off Road & Race Only)
Although this kit is one of many from our S. African stable of existing kits, it may be some time before we are able to bring this over to test fit on a LHD vehicle, re-tune for 91 octane, possibly add an intercooler, and look into the feasibility of getting this CARB tested and certified.
TOYOTA
`98-`03 Corolla / 00-`03 Celica / Matrix / Pontiac Vibe (1ZZ-FE engine) Aqua-cooled Turbo Kit
(anticipate CARB certification)
We were re-approached by one of our existing clients a few months back, and are now in the midst of negotiations with them regarding a forced induction kit for this application, which would be a "private label" kit, and unfortunately, have put plans for our own aftermarket turbo kit on hold, until this is sorted out. Again, we can not divulge any more information on this application until it is near completion, and have permission from our client to reveal who they are and details of this kit.
OTHER APPLICATIONS
We have a lot of applications we are working on (including three different GM turbo kits for a "private label" client we're just finishing up with), and because of this, a lot of the existing applications from S. Africa, and the numerous others we have received many requests for, will also have to put on the "back-burner" for a while, but will give a brief synopsis below:
BMW: It may be sometime before we can bring both the 1.8L supercharger kit, and the 2.5L turbo kit over from our stable of kits in S. Africa, but don't anticipate being be able to test fit on LHD vehicles before the end of this year. Possibly early `04.
Mitsubishi: We not received enough inquiries for the 3.0L, and even fewer on the 2.4L, that unless we received a flood of inquiries in the next six months, would have no plans to develop any kits for these applications.
As you can see from the shear number of applications we are currently working on, that it is difficult satisfy everyone's requests at the same time, and ask that you keep in mind the costs involved in trying to bring these applications to market, with the CARB certification and power trains warranties when venting your frustration at us not building the particular kit for your application. Again, we would like to thank all of you who have made inquiries and patiently waited to hear back from us. If you should have any other questions or concerns, don't hesitate to contact us again. Thanks.
Stephen M. Belanger
Sales & Marketing
S.A. Alpine Developments, Inc.
7581 Acacia Avenue
Garden Grove, Ca. 92841
Ph. (714) 379-8066
Fx. (714) 379-8166
sbelanger@alpine-developments.us
www.alpine-developments.co.m
I had to edit a little, it was too long
Sorry for the delayed reply, but have been waiting for the owners to sort some things out and make some decisions before being able to bring everyone up to date.
As many of you know, word is getting out of our existence, and we have been swamped with e-mail inquiries for over a dozen different forced induction applications since November/December of last year. Based on the number of inquiries received (which we encouraged), informed you that we would be developing forced induction applications for a number of your requested vehicle models near the beginning of the year. We've also been approached by several companies since our announcements, to manufacture forced induction applications O.E., or "private label", and many of our "planned" applications have been changed.
Before you vent any disappointment with our development decisions, please understand that for the past 24 years, 70-80% of Alpine Developments business has been the supplying of O.E. and private label forced inductions kits, and it is the owners intention to do the same here in the U.S.. One more bit of disappointing news, because of the recent global conflicts, and the fluctuation of the exchange rate between the U.S. dollar, and the S. African rand (about 20%), there will be another price increase effective May 1, 2003 (orders placed prior to May 9th, will be honored at the older price). Here's the latest on all of the applications you have been asking about :
HYUNDAI
`96-`00 Elantra/`96-`01 Tiburon (1.8L/2.0L-I4) Turbo w/Intercooler Kit (Beta I engine)
(Off Road & Race Only)
This kit remains unchanged, and still includes the fifth fuel injector and Unichip (except the Unichip tuning has been more refined), and there is no immediate plans to try and get CARB certification on, so will remain as an "Off-road and Race only" kit.
Available: Four (4) kits arriving the end of this April (three already sold!). Otherwise, "special order" allowing two-to-three-weeks shipping time from S.A..
New MSRP: $2900.
`01-`03 Elantra / `03 Tiburon (2.0L-I4) Turbo w/Aqua-cooler Kit (Beta II engine)
(Off Road & Race Only)
The decision was made to bring this kit to market as soon as possible, using the above kit's exhaust manifold and therefore is not going to be CARB certified. We have designed a new more efficient self-contained liquid-to-air "Aqua-cooler" for this kit. This kit will also get the benefit of our own new "black-box" ECU management, doing away with the Unichip. To build this kit to meet CARB certification, would require designing a new exhaust/turbo manifold that utilizes the factory exhaust manifold/catalytic converter (also increasing the cost), and the decision to do so has not been made yet!
Available: July`03.
Est. MSRP: $3000.
`96-`00 Elantra / `96-`01 Tiburon (1.8L/2.0L-I4) Supercharger Kit (Beta I engine)
(Off Road & Race Only)
This kit is still under "re-engineering", and will benefit from our new "black-box" ECU technology, replacing the Unichip. Otherwise, will remain much the same as is.
Available: July / August`03.
New MSRP: $2900.
`01-`03 Elantra / `03 2.0L Tiburon (2.0L-I4) Supercharger Kit (Beta II engine)
(anticipate CARB certification)
We are waiting to test fit the new intake manifold, and will also benefit from our new "black-box" ECU technology, and anticipate no problems on getting CARB certification before releasing for sale (which means our limited "3-Year / 36,000 Mile Power Train Warranty" would apply.
Available: August / September`03.
New MSRP: $3000.
`02-`03 Tiburon / Santa Fe / Sonata / Kia Optima (2.7L-V6) Aqua-cooled Supercharger Kit
(CARB E.O.# D-551-1)
The final version of this kit is in full production now, with only a few minor changes for safety issues (the replacement of the steel braided "cooler" hoses to rubber hose). We may offer some "upgrade" parts for this kit later on, which may include clear plastic covered steel braided hoses and urethane engine mounts. This kit may also be offered without the "Aqua-cooler" and our exclusive limited "3-Year / 36,000 Mile Power Train Warranty" for a reduced price if there is enough of a demand for it. We are just now finishing up the fitment and instructions on the Santa Fe, and will also do the same for the Sonata and Kia Optima in the next couple of months.
NISSAN
`00-`03 Frontier / X-Terra (3.3L-V6) Supercharger Kit
(anticipate CARB certification)
This kit is in the final stages of development, and anticipate if passing CARB, will include the limited "3-Year / 36,000 Power Train Warranty" and optional "extended power train warranty. As we get nearer to the availability date, will know what other year/model applications this should fit. This will still be offered by Alpine Developments.
Available: Late August.
New MSRP: $3000.
`02-`03 Altima / Sentra (SER & V-Spec) (2.5L-I4) Turbo w/Aqua-cooler Kit
(anticipate CARB certification)
While we are still going to develop an aqua-cooled turbo kit for this engine platform, we are in the final stages of negotiations with a company to manufacture this kit "private label" for them, and will not be able to offer this kit to the aftermarket ourselves. Unfortunately, we can not divulge any more information on this application until it is near completion, and have permission from our client to reveal who they are and details of this kit.
`02-`03 Altima / Maxima / `03 350Z / Infiniti G35 /I35 (3.5L-V6) Aqua-cooled Supercharger Kit
(anticipate CARB certification)
Like the above application, this kit will be developed for the same company to sell "private label", and we will not be offering this application to the aftermarket ourselves. As with the above kit, we can not divulge any more information on this application until near completion, and have permission from our client to reveal who they are and the details of this kit.
`95-`01 Maxima (3.0L-V6) Aqua-cooled Supercharger Kit
(anticipate CARB certification)
We've had enough requests for this application to give it serious consideration, but because of the "private label" applications listed (and several not listed), would not be able to start on this until sometime late this fall, or early winter.
`98-`01 Sentra (1.8L-I4) Turbo Kit
(Off Road & Race Only)
Although this kit is one of many from our S. African stable of existing kits, it may be some time before we are able to bring this over to test fit on a LHD vehicle, re-tune for 91 octane, possibly add an intercooler, and look into the feasibility of getting this CARB tested and certified.
TOYOTA
`98-`03 Corolla / 00-`03 Celica / Matrix / Pontiac Vibe (1ZZ-FE engine) Aqua-cooled Turbo Kit
(anticipate CARB certification)
We were re-approached by one of our existing clients a few months back, and are now in the midst of negotiations with them regarding a forced induction kit for this application, which would be a "private label" kit, and unfortunately, have put plans for our own aftermarket turbo kit on hold, until this is sorted out. Again, we can not divulge any more information on this application until it is near completion, and have permission from our client to reveal who they are and details of this kit.
OTHER APPLICATIONS
We have a lot of applications we are working on (including three different GM turbo kits for a "private label" client we're just finishing up with), and because of this, a lot of the existing applications from S. Africa, and the numerous others we have received many requests for, will also have to put on the "back-burner" for a while, but will give a brief synopsis below:
BMW: It may be sometime before we can bring both the 1.8L supercharger kit, and the 2.5L turbo kit over from our stable of kits in S. Africa, but don't anticipate being be able to test fit on LHD vehicles before the end of this year. Possibly early `04.
Mitsubishi: We not received enough inquiries for the 3.0L, and even fewer on the 2.4L, that unless we received a flood of inquiries in the next six months, would have no plans to develop any kits for these applications.
As you can see from the shear number of applications we are currently working on, that it is difficult satisfy everyone's requests at the same time, and ask that you keep in mind the costs involved in trying to bring these applications to market, with the CARB certification and power trains warranties when venting your frustration at us not building the particular kit for your application. Again, we would like to thank all of you who have made inquiries and patiently waited to hear back from us. If you should have any other questions or concerns, don't hesitate to contact us again. Thanks.
Stephen M. Belanger
Sales & Marketing
S.A. Alpine Developments, Inc.
7581 Acacia Avenue
Garden Grove, Ca. 92841
Ph. (714) 379-8066
Fx. (714) 379-8166
sbelanger@alpine-developments.us
www.alpine-developments.co.m
I had to edit a little, it was too long
Well, here we go again.
Just got this from him after writing him back:
Dr Bonz
350ZFRENZY.com Staff
Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Western PA
Posts: 380
I had written this to Steve after hearing this news:
Steve: While we here in the 350Z world are very disappointed, I was still glad to finally hear from you. I realize you can't give out much information about who you are making the SC for, but can I ask two things? First, what is the time frame for releasing the "private label" SC? Second, will it still be offered with the warranty and extended warranty you mentioned before?
Thanks,
Ed
www.350Zfrenzy.com
HE WROTE BACK WITH THIS:
Ed:
Good news! I am now being told that Alpine will be able to offer this kit when it does become available (negotiations are changing daily). The kit should be available in 6 months, and will offer the power train warranty!
Stephen M. Belanger
Sales & Marketing
S.A. Alpine Developments, Inc.
7581 Acacia Avenue
Garden Grove, Ca. 92841
Ph. (714) 379-8066
Fx. (714) 379-8166
sbelanger@alpine-developments.us
www.alpine-developments.co.za
Just got this from him after writing him back:
Dr Bonz
350ZFRENZY.com Staff
Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Western PA
Posts: 380
I had written this to Steve after hearing this news:
Steve: While we here in the 350Z world are very disappointed, I was still glad to finally hear from you. I realize you can't give out much information about who you are making the SC for, but can I ask two things? First, what is the time frame for releasing the "private label" SC? Second, will it still be offered with the warranty and extended warranty you mentioned before?
Thanks,
Ed
www.350Zfrenzy.com
HE WROTE BACK WITH THIS:
Ed:
Good news! I am now being told that Alpine will be able to offer this kit when it does become available (negotiations are changing daily). The kit should be available in 6 months, and will offer the power train warranty!
Stephen M. Belanger
Sales & Marketing
S.A. Alpine Developments, Inc.
7581 Acacia Avenue
Garden Grove, Ca. 92841
Ph. (714) 379-8066
Fx. (714) 379-8166
sbelanger@alpine-developments.us
www.alpine-developments.co.za
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Still my favorite thread!
Thanks doc. That's not so disappointing except for the 4-5 month delay. I think we all know their customer is Nissan USA for the new NISMO launch.
If I had one question to ask them it would be this: Have they started project 350Z and, if so, does the roots blower with the heat exchanger fit under the hood?
If I had one question to ask them it would be this: Have they started project 350Z and, if so, does the roots blower with the heat exchanger fit under the hood?
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