APS TT w/ smoke
06-12-2005, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
sounds like the aps kit finally has a flaw..from all of the posts i had been reading in the past about aps, it seemed that the kit was fabricated by sweet baby jesus and the angels carried the kit to earth!
soooooo annoying how there are so many posts about how great the aps kit and how bad the greddy kit is...finally, +1 point for the greddy kit
not trying to bash the aps kit, i too, think it is an awesome kit...but those ausies need to go back to the drawing board on this one.
soooooo annoying how there are so many posts about how great the aps kit and how bad the greddy kit is...finally, +1 point for the greddy kit
not trying to bash the aps kit, i too, think it is an awesome kit...but those ausies need to go back to the drawing board on this one.
06-12-2005, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by xxlbeerZ
Really, I don't remember people complaining about this before, seems like it's just the recent installs done by non-dealers.
Smoke is better than 50 blown motors!
Smoke is better than 50 blown motors!
your missing my point here beer...
the APS kit was the savior to the fall of man....or was it???
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...it'll be a few years until anybody makes a kit that is flawless out of the box, this is a new platform to be experimenting with...
06-12-2005, 02:48 PM
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C'mon, nobody's perfect. If my smoke clears up in 500 miles or so, I'll be a happy camper. If not, I want somebodys' head on a pike!
Let's review a few things:
1)Which manufacturers' R&D revealed the need for a shielded CAS wire?
2)How many supply it with the kit?
3)Who included an upgraded fuel system, blow-off valve, and tuneable engine management system?
4)If you remove your front bumper support and a passenger is injured in a collision, can you say "contributory negligence"? Sure you can.
Just askin..........
Let's review a few things:
1)Which manufacturers' R&D revealed the need for a shielded CAS wire?
2)How many supply it with the kit?
3)Who included an upgraded fuel system, blow-off valve, and tuneable engine management system?
4)If you remove your front bumper support and a passenger is injured in a collision, can you say "contributory negligence"? Sure you can.
Just askin..........
06-12-2005, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by brucekgt
C'mon, nobody's perfect. If my smoke clears up in 500 miles or so, I'll be a happy camper. If not, I want somebodys' head on a pike!
Let's review a few things:
1)Which manufacturers' R&D revealed the need for a shielded CAS wire?
2)How many supply it with the kit?
3)Who included an upgraded fuel system, blow-off valve, and tuneable engine management system?
4)If you remove your front bumper support and a passenger is injured in a collision, can you say "contributory negligence"? Sure you can.
Just askin..........
Let's review a few things:
1)Which manufacturers' R&D revealed the need for a shielded CAS wire?
2)How many supply it with the kit?
3)Who included an upgraded fuel system, blow-off valve, and tuneable engine management system?
4)If you remove your front bumper support and a passenger is injured in a collision, can you say "contributory negligence"? Sure you can.
Just askin..........
ok, the horse was dead two months ago...i know all of the things aps sat back and figured out as they watched greddy (the first) to miss things and make mistakes....
very easy to be on your side of the arguement, that is the side that keeps coming up, over and over, and rightfully so...i was just making an observation of how NOW, the APS kit is finally having a few minor issues (to be expected with any kit on a motor this new)...just pointing out, it's not the saving grace everybody thinks it is
problems with aps:
smoking turbos
can't tune unichip unless dealer/tuner w/ protected software
(and yes, i know greddy tt have been blamed for many motors blowing up, so don't even say it)
06-12-2005, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by brucekgt
I don't think Peter can respond on this site. He's been banned.
Peter, you don't need to comment, most of us already know what you would have said, as it doesn't change
06-12-2005, 03:47 PM
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Remember the Jonestown massacre? There are probably some owners that "drank the APS Kool-Aid". I hope everybody forms their opinions based on reality, not "blind brand loyalty" because they already bought a particular kit. They all seem to work and I hope that there are fixes for the problems that crop up. I know I'm having my share of problems with my install. Actuators, fan blade clearance, oil smoke, and tuning. But, I'm responsible, since I CHOSE to lower the CR and I knew I didn't have an APS dealer in the state when I bought it. I've been without a car for two months and counting.........
06-12-2005, 06:55 PM
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I really don't know what to do about my smoking issue....I have the oil exactly at the "ADD" line, my oil return lines can't possibly allow anymore gravity flow, and I'm still smoking on rapid decel. Hopefully SGP can fix it next month when I go in for tuning. I'm def no expert, but I'm starting to think there are a bad batch of Garrett turbo seals...
06-12-2005, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ccartwright
I really don't know what to do about my smoking issue....I have the oil exactly at the "ADD" line, my oil return lines can't possibly allow anymore gravity flow, and I'm still smoking on rapid decel. Hopefully SGP can fix it next month when I go in for tuning. I'm def no expert, but I'm starting to think there are a bad batch of Garrett turbo seals...
06-12-2005, 07:44 PM
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Like I said maybe it is the turbos themselves. There's no way this problem JUST surfaced after what, 6-8 months of this kit being on the market? I'm sure there were a few non-APS dealers installing these in the past with no problem. If it's just the most recent installs, doesn't that point to it being possibly a bad batch? Not trying to stir up anything here, just speculating.
06-12-2005, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ccartwright
Like I said maybe it is the turbos themselves. There's no way this problem JUST surfaced after what, 6-8 months of this kit being on the market? I'm sure there were a few non-APS dealers installing these in the past with no problem. If it's just the most recent installs, doesn't that point to it being possibly a bad batch? Not trying to stir up anything here, just speculating.
06-12-2005, 09:59 PM
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APS answer to smoke
I just got my installed 4 days ago and it doesn't smoke. Here's the link to the APS answer to the smoke during deceleration:
http://www.*************/350z/oil_dr...ain_notice.htm
hmm...the link gets blocked - just go to the APS site and then type in the rest of the address above.
Now if someone could tell me why my cabin smells like gas after the install, I would really appreciate it. Its irritating as hell. Could it be because my car is running too rich?
http://www.*************/350z/oil_dr...ain_notice.htm
hmm...the link gets blocked - just go to the APS site and then type in the rest of the address above.
Now if someone could tell me why my cabin smells like gas after the install, I would really appreciate it. Its irritating as hell. Could it be because my car is running too rich?
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06-12-2005, 10:00 PM
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Agreed.. the board ****'s gave em' the boot. For business reasons, it makes sense.. But for the true original meaning of this site (enthusiast) it sucks. He still posts regularly on the 'other' site.
06-13-2005, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by narkotic
Agreed.. the board ****'s gave em' the boot. For business reasons, it makes sense.. But for the true original meaning of this site (enthusiast) it sucks. He still posts regularly on the 'other' site.
Thanks!
06-13-2005, 05:24 AM
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Now if someone could tell me why my cabin smells like gas after the install, I would really appreciate it. Its irritating as hell. Could it be because my car is running too rich?
Have you installer double check that area, and maybe use some fuel proof sealant to keep the vapors out.
06-13-2005, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by davewo
I just got my installed 4 days ago and it doesn't smoke. Here's the link to the APS answer to the smoke during deceleration:
http://www.*************/350z/oil_dr...ain_notice.htm
hmm...the link gets blocked - just go to the APS site and then type in the rest of the address above.
Now if someone could tell me why my cabin smells like gas after the install, I would really appreciate it. Its irritating as hell. Could it be because my car is running too rich?
http://www.*************/350z/oil_dr...ain_notice.htm
hmm...the link gets blocked - just go to the APS site and then type in the rest of the address above.
Now if someone could tell me why my cabin smells like gas after the install, I would really appreciate it. Its irritating as hell. Could it be because my car is running too rich?
06-13-2005, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ccartwright
I really don't know what to do about my smoking issue....I have the oil exactly at the "ADD" line, my oil return lines can't possibly allow anymore gravity flow, and I'm still smoking on rapid decel. Hopefully SGP can fix it next month when I go in for tuning. I'm def no expert, but I'm starting to think there are a bad batch of Garrett turbo seals...
Just for the sake of testing....has anyone with this kit done this yet:
-Run the car with the oil level BELOW the fill line? This would not be wise to do if you were to go bang on your car at high rpms....but it would answer the question of whether or not the oil level has something to do with the oil smoking issue. Maybe run the car for a few miles with half the amount of oil. It "shouldn't" harm the engine as long as the oil pressure is within spec and you drive it like nice and easy, mimicking the style and routine of driving that produces the smoke cloud.
I feel sorry for your rear bumpers!
sean
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