If you use a n2o sprayer, you should only be spraying when you're stopping or at a stop(as a heatsoak prevention). Otherwise you will be injecting a dry shot.
If you do want to spray while you are a run, you probably need filter boxes & direct air from the outside of the car. Then you have to think, do you really want to hack up the front to make something like that for the filters? I only have one filter with my SC which would be less work but still.... I have thought about though knowing I have the NX IC kit here but I think I'll just use the Zex kit for my wet shot & the NX IC kit for looks/heat soak.

I have had the Stillen SC stage III with a 55 shot for a while now(20,000 mils) & it's time to step up. I pulled my motor last sat & plan on goin BIG.
10-12lbs + 100 shot I can't wait

Meangene, look at all of the SC owners. They all want the turbos now. I've chated with you on the n2o section a bit & you seem pretty knowledgable, I just want to let you know that the Vortec is a good kit but I'd get the ST APS or turbonetics kit due to the lack of tq from the vortec.
It's all about instant TQ(my opinion),the TT's,ST's,& roots/twin scew's deliver.

 

Bill - That's the effect the CO2 fire extinguisher has on an electrical fire. With my luck, that's the result that I'd get - a BIG bog!!!

 

Wes - I'm in total agreement with your "torque rules" statement!! And yes, IF I could do it all over again I'd pick up the APS or JWT T/T kit. However, I got such a great deal on the Vortech from Brett ( tig488 - thanks!! ) that I'm going to go ahead with the install this summer. Also, I plan on letting John ( Isbell ) experiment with some of his Vortech ideas which ( hopefully ) will lower the usable rpm range of the centrifugal S/C to one somewhat better suited for the street. Besides, who said I was gonna STOP using the squeeze with the Vortech????
Gonna run on the ragged edge with the Vortech & if she blows, THEN I'll have to build a motor ( complete w/cams & headwork ) & T/T, here I come!! Thanks for the input & yes, I HAVE noticed LOTS of our members selling their ATI's & Vortech's for S/T & T/T setups.

 

NO2 and CO2 both displace oxygen. You can tune around them, but when not running them you will lose power because you will be running too rich. Water injection is the safest method, but given the temp change, there is still some level of tuning around this as well.

 

any pics yet ?

 

Would running this kit with the C02 instead of N20 be safer? Does C02 also run you AS lean? IIRC when you buy the kit you have to specify what you will be running (CO2 or N20) because the fittings on the bottle are different. Anybody with any CO2 N-tercooler experience?

 

Then what I read and heard is correct . If it gets in the intake it would bog you down and you would go real rich . And that would be much safer than getting NO2 in the intake and going lean with a huge boost in power

 

Hey bro its Steve, do you know where I can buy that kit thats on that car? Or should I call Rob and ask?

 

Anyone found some water-based spray systems for intercoolers? I'm just not in the mood to refill the bottle with "the special stuff" for every zig-zag I do.

Find a spot for water reservoir, place heat-insulated reservoir, connect to low-H2O sensor and spray-me button in cockpit, spray water and be happy to refill from tap.

Anyone?

 

I think you could buy some misters for Home Depot and hook them up to your window washer with out any trouble . You would have low level ,and if you hook up some type of diverter [ electrical maybe ] you could switch back and forth

 

One thing to also note with N2O spray. When you inject nitrous into the intake side of the compressor it becomes a much larger shot then it would be if injected after the compressor. A "5" shot essentially becomes a "50" shot. So even though it seems like a minimal amount of nitrous is going into the filters it is actually being compressed along with the air and becoming much more potent.

 

So what Evidence of testing do you have to confirm the "5" shot intake side of Compressor?

Inquiring mind's "want to know"

Cheers Amy -

From my Friend's Vue Point - Your theory is like S**ting in a flat hat..

But we might be wrong..

 

I'm not sure I can provide "evidence" but I can explain myself. Air is a gas, right? Nitrous is a gas, right? When a turbo or supercharger compresses a gas(air) it has more or less volume? Obviously more volume otherwise you would not make any additional power. The same principle applies to nitrous. Now one side note. This applies to unmetered nitrous as was being discussed in this thread (n2o sprayer). Thats why I put the "5" in parens to try to indicate this. Here is a link that helps to physically represent what is happening.

http://www.chemistry.ohio-state.edu/...aw/frb2.2.html

 

What do you guys think of the "aqua mist" system that sprays water onto/into your intercooler for additonal cooling. Do you get real air charge cooling and more power or is the system hype. I realize that it would not cool the air charge as much as NOS, but it should be safe as far as affecting the A/F ratio.

 

Dynamic6er is right. I had a 55 shot & it made over 65hp. It may not be that much more but it IS more.
If you are planning on using a wet shot, an IC sprayer can be used as a purge for the n2o system instead of buying a purge cylinoid.The IC sprayer will basically be for heat soak & a purge valve for the n2o.This is my plan.
If you set it up like that, you will not want to spray the IC while you're WOT because you may loose bottle pressure shooting both at the same time. Plus, you wont ever spray a dry shot unintentially.

The aquamist system sounds/looks cool for an air to air intercooler but it is just so expensive. For my water to air IC(Stillen SC) the system probably wont work at all. The system may have a water injection effect if the mist is close enough to the filters, then you might bog the motor a bit if it's not tuned with it.

 

I remember reading an article in a import magazine about 3 months ago on a G35 coupe that was vortech s/c'd, and after the guy modded practically everything he could, he wanted nitrous. The mechanic suggested just doing a FMIC nitrous sprayer. And the dyno showed a difference of like 50+ whp. I just spent 15 minutes looking for the magazine, but I remember looking at the two numbers while flying to myrtle beach and saying out loud holy ****.. the stewardist asked if everything was okay

 

I believe that magazine was the same issue that had the project car shootout, where the 350z placed pretty much dead last, thanks to the wet track.