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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 10:02 AM
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Has anyone thought if using the JWT pan spacer with the APS TT oil pan in order to move the oil level below the drain tube fittings on the top of the pan?
APS has always said it was very important to only have 5 quarts in the engine and I think if under acceleration the oil moves to the back of the pan and up it might stop the draining of the oil into the pan. That would give the puffing on decel or at a stoplight after a boosted run. With the spacer the drain fittings would be above the oil and there would be less chance of the oil "sloshing" and blocking the drains. Any thoughts??
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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Has anyone thought if using the JWT pan spacer with the APS TT oil pan in order to move the oil level below the drain tube fittings on the top of the pan?
APS has always said it was very important to only have 5 quarts in the engine and I think if under acceleration the oil moves to the back of the pan and up it might stop the draining of the oil into the pan. That would give the puffing on decel or at a stoplight after a boosted run. With the spacer the drain fittings would be above the oil and there would be less chance of the oil "sloshing" and blocking the drains. Any thoughts??

Don't think it is possible. the aps kit already extends the oil pick-up to accomodate for the new pan. adding the spacer would require it to be extended further.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 10:12 AM
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That doesn't explain why the car smokes when you rev it at a stand still however.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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Don't think it is possible. the aps kit already extends the oil pick-up to accomodate for the new pan. adding the spacer would require it to be extended further.
The JWT pan does come with an extension as well. You would just use the 2 blocks and get some longer hardware. It might be worth a try. After spending $7000 on the kit another $100 isn't a lot for a possible solution.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by g356gear
The JWT pan does come with an extension as well. You would just use the 2 blocks and get some longer hardware. It might be worth a try. After spending $7000 on the kit another $100 isn't a lot for a possible solution.

I think the 'solution' is beyond extending the pan.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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That doesn't explain why the car smokes when you rev it at a stand still however.

You having smoking issues? send me a PM with details
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Originally Posted by Zivman
I think the 'solution' is beyond extending the pan.
Please elaborate on your hypothesis.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by g356gear
Please elaborate on your hypothesis.
The thing is, I don't know. I think it has something to do with the amount of oil the turbos are getting. Possibly something to do with the oil pressure. extending the pan won't do much if the turbos themselves are causing the smoking.

My car may be smoking for a combo of many reasons. Though it has something to do wth the kit. It may be just the addition of the boost, but only time will tell. I am having a compression and leak down test done next week. Based on that, and the quote I receive from GRD to build me a motor, I may sending my car down to IL for a build up.
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The reason I ask is that a few people have removed their drain lines and the oil in the pan has been up to the bottom of the drain fittings....even with 5 quarts. Which means...that the oil can't drain into the pan. This is why I suggested the spacer.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by g356gear
The reason I ask is that a few people have removed their drain lines and the oil in the pan has been up to the bottom of the drain fittings....even with 5 quarts. Which means...that the oil can't drain into the pan. This is why I suggested the spacer.

Keep in mind, that is with all the oil sitting dead in the pan. Once you start up the car, the oil is thrown all over the engine and thus, your in pan oil level is greatly reduced.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Zivman
Keep in mind, that is with all the oil sitting dead in the pan. Once you start up the car, the oil is thrown all over the engine and thus, your in pan oil level is greatly reduced.
Yes I realize this.....like I said earlier....it is just a possible solution to a problem that many are having. And a relatively inexpensive one at that.
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