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Old 10-24-2005, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by g35twinturbo
vision, can u tell me what was done to increase the boost on your stillen sc? Besides just the upgraded pulley? Do you sell this upgrade?

It's very complicated because when you increase boost by shrinking the pulley on that blower (Eaton m60) you get massive heat increases. IE: you don't really see substancial HP increases. We are however working on a solution to this problem. In 2 weeks I will have a post with the results of some testing we're (myself, Brent Racing and Jim Wolf Technologies) doing right now. We'll see what happens. I don't want to count my Chikens before they hatch.
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alright please keep me updated....


Thanks again,
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Old 10-24-2005, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by g35twinturbo
alright please keep me updated....


Thanks again,
Jordan
I will. It should not be long....
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Originally Posted by vision619
I will. It should not be long....

What were the results of youre project any news?
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Originally Posted by PANCHOVILLA
What were the results of youre project any news?
Snow Performance Methonal Injection.
Substancial power increase.
Old 12-01-2005, 09:14 PM
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we need some more info than that man. Where did u inject the menthanol, the intercooler or directly into the intake?
Old 12-01-2005, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by g35twinturbo
we need some more info than that man. Where did u inject the menthanol, the intercooler or directly into the intake?
ya, why don't you do a write-up on it for the forum's benefit?
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I'd like to get the stage 3 pulley, but I want to make sure I'm getting the full 7 lbs. of boost is there anyway to ensure this or should I have a pulley custom made?
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Originally Posted by Z BOY
ya, why don't you do a write-up on it for the forum's benefit?
Basically the Meth/Water Injection ( injector inserted 1" before the throttle body) turns 91 octane into 120 octane allowing you to add 10 degrees of timing while simultaneously cooling the rotors in the blower and the intake temp. It also seals the rotors better giving you .5 lbs more boost. The problem is you can't make any changes to the original Split Second box Stillen puts in there, therefore you can't benefit from most of this unless you change your fuel/timing management. That's where it gets tricky. I used an FTC from Split Second and a larger fuel pump as well as an FMU and I removed the 7th injector. Still using stock injectors. I'm still tuning but so far I'm running like a rich pig (9.8 after 3500 rpm) and still getting a 40 lb increase in torque. I'll post more after I get a full non-Meth tune, and then a Meth tune where I add the 10 degrees of timing.

BTW, Z Boy if your car was the silver one at the meet with the Lambo doors, it's SICK
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Originally Posted by BlackSpec02
I'd like to get the stage 3 pulley, but I want to make sure I'm getting the full 7 lbs. of boost is there anyway to ensure this or should I have a pulley custom made?
The only thing you can really do is hook up a Boost gauge AFTER you buy it. if you own an 05' the stage 3 pulley is Gold. Anything earlier is Red.
Old 12-02-2005, 11:19 AM
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I have a Stage 3 pully that is RED. My boost guage shows 8lbs with the red pully.

James
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Originally Posted by vision619
Basically the Meth/Water Injection ( injector inserted 1" before the throttle body) turns 91 octane into 120 octane allowing you to add 10 degrees of timing while simultaneously cooling the rotors in the blower and the intake temp. It also seals the rotors better giving you .5 lbs more boost. The problem is you can't make any changes to the original Split Second box Stillen puts in there, therefore you can't benefit from most of this unless you change your fuel/timing management. That's where it gets tricky. I used an FTC from Split Second and a larger fuel pump as well as an FMU and I removed the 7th injector. Still using stock injectors. I'm still tuning but so far I'm running like a rich pig (9.8 after 3500 rpm) and still getting a 40 lb increase in torque. I'll post more after I get a full non-Meth tune, and then a Meth tune where I add the 10 degrees of timing.

BTW, Z Boy if your car was the silver one at the meet with the Lambo doors, it's SICK
thanx for the info. please keep us updated.
no, that nice z wasn't mine. mine is in my sig.
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Originally Posted by vision619
The only thing you can really do is hook up a Boost gauge AFTER you buy it. if you own an 05' the stage 3 pulley is Gold. Anything earlier is Red.
or use a manual boost gauge at the nipple on the plenum. most dyno shops have 'em.
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Originally Posted by vision619
The only thing you can really do is hook up a Boost gauge AFTER you buy it. if you own an 05' the stage 3 pulley is Gold. Anything earlier is Red.
People were saying that the gold pulley makes more boost, can I just call stillen and buy a gold pulley?
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Guys, the bottom line is the M62 supercharger is TOO small for a 3.5 liter engine. The blower RPMS are maxed out at 14000 RPMS which are hit with a
6500 RPM redline and net a whole 5 pounds of boost! Anyone hitting more boost than this is overrevving the blower, or has a back pressure problem.

Stillen picked a blower size that prevents us from going HOG WILD and leaving masses of engine and transmission parts scattered all over the highway. A EATON M90 IF SET UP PROPERLY! Will eat the Turbo's LUNCH!


Crunch your own numbers with this Blower calculator. (Excel Needed!)

http://www.sprintex.com.au/Opcon_Autorotor.asp
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Originally Posted by damelman
Guys, the bottom line is the M62 supercharger is TOO small for a 3.5 liter engine. The blower RPMS are maxed out at 14000 RPMS which are hit with a
6500 RPM redline and net a whole 5 pounds of boost! Anyone hitting more boost than this is overrevving the blower, or has a back pressure problem.

Stillen picked a blower size that prevents us from going HOG WILD and leaving masses of engine and transmission parts scattered all over the highway. A EATON M90 IF SET UP PROPERLY! Will eat the Turbo's LUNCH!


Crunch your own numbers with this Blower calculator. (Excel Needed!)

http://www.sprintex.com.au/Opcon_Autorotor.asp
Why would they sell us this kit then if its not the proper size for our motor? Anyone else have info about this because I have no idea.
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Originally Posted by BlackSpec02
Why would they sell us this kit then if its not the proper size for our motor? Anyone else have info about this because I have no idea.
that is one man's opinion, one with 4 posts. take it with a grain of salt. several people have blown their engine with that kit, but this guy's saying its too small. grain of salt.
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Originally Posted by Z BOY
that is one man's opinion, one with 4 posts. take it with a grain of salt. several people have blown their engine with that kit, but this guy's saying its too small. grain of salt.
I blew my engine on a stage 3 Stillen kit.
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Really? Stock stillen tune just the upgraded pulley?


What happend?


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