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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by prescience
So nosey, what you guys trading
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 10:58 PM
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you mean like this

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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 11:52 PM
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all i have to say is "shibby!"
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Badmonkey
The superchargers come with a "bypass" valve. The valve is designed to open up while under vacuum. This sends the compressed air back through the intake. You can vent this to the atmosphere but the sound is not like that of a turbo. The release is long and constant. I recently installed a TurboXS BOV on my car and had it vented to the atmosphere, it was very loud. The sound was like a huge blow dryer at idle, since it was dumping all of the air out. While under boost, the valve would close and quiet down. When you let off the throttle it gave off a long whoosh and then it stayed at the normal loudness at idle. It sounded very crappy, to say the least. So, I routed the discharge to the intake and the sound is now gone, for the most part. I do get a little more boost with the BOV compared to the cheap bypass valve. I was hitting 10.5 psi before, now I see 11.0 psi.
My guess is that you have an automatic. Auto's don't let off of boost when they shift gears so you don't have the turbo BOV sound when you let off of the gas and shift. The "bypass" valve on the Vortech, with a 6MT sounds pretty similar to a turbo BOV.

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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 06:06 AM
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A supercharged engine would not use a blow-off valve. With Supercharging the "blower" works off the engines crankshaft; the engines RPM drives the unit. Turbochargers work off the engines exhaust flow which is used to power the turbos. The blow-off valve is needed for a turbocharger because it helps to regulate the amount of pressure being sent to the unit.


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No, your confusing yourself with a wastegate. A BOV serves exactly the same purpose on a supercharged car as a turbo car, to release pressure that is trapped between the discharge of the compressor and the throttle plate when it shuts (gear change, etc). The release of this pressure prevents the turbine stalling, and protects the compressor from potential damage that can occur because of this backflow, through the compressor.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by baptist
No, your confusing yourself with a wastegate. A BOV serves exactly the same purpose on a supercharged car as a turbo car, to release pressure that is trapped between the discharge of the compressor and the throttle plate when it shuts (gear change, etc). The release of this pressure prevents the turbine stalling, and protects the compressor from potential damage that can occur because of this backflow, through the compressor.
You forgot to add "you daft yanks..."
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 06:39 AM
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^^^ LOL ^^^^ Your not all daft
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by neffster
My guess is that you have an automatic. Auto's don't let off of boost when they shift gears so you don't have the turbo BOV sound when you let off of the gas and shift. The "bypass" valve on the Vortech, with a 6MT sounds pretty similar to a turbo BOV.

Hope that helps...
I have a manual and know how my system works. The BOV does work while shifting, but it is a longer sound than a turbo, due to the characteristics of the supercharger, which is always spinning. When the car is at idle the sound from the air blowing through the BOV is VERY loud. While driving and not boosting, the sound is VERY loud. While driving and boosting, it gets quiet until the shift, yes you do hear a whoosh, but is is a lot longer in duration than a turbo. I enjoy a BOV sound, too, but the sound while there is still vacuum, is terrible.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Badmonkey
I have a manual and know how my system works. The BOV does work while shifting, but it is a longer sound than a turbo, due to the characteristics of the supercharger, which is always spinning. When the car is at idle the sound from the air blowing through the BOV is VERY loud. While driving and not boosting, the sound is VERY loud. While driving and boosting, it gets quiet until the shift, yes you do hear a whoosh, but is is a lot longer in duration than a turbo. I enjoy a BOV sound, too, but the sound while there is still vacuum, is terrible.
Isn't the noise different for different kits. I think from what I've heard that the Procharger is one of the loudest.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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The Procharger system is loud. The BOV/bypass system, I believe, is very similar, if not identical. I have not had a chance to look at the Vortech setup, yet.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Badmonkey
I have a manual and know how my system works. The BOV does work while shifting, but it is a longer sound than a turbo, due to the characteristics of the supercharger, which is always spinning. When the car is at idle the sound from the air blowing through the BOV is VERY loud. While driving and not boosting, the sound is VERY loud. While driving and boosting, it gets quiet until the shift, yes you do hear a whoosh, but is is a lot longer in duration than a turbo. I enjoy a BOV sound, too, but the sound while there is still vacuum, is terrible.
Well maybe you should look into getting a small K&N motorcycle filter and put it over the BOV exit. I did this and it drastically reduced my vacuum noise. Car isn't totally quiet, but it's 10 times more quiet than my buddies (g8tor20) who decided that he likes the jet engine sound. You might need to rotate the BOV 180 degrees to get the filter to fit.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Badmonkey
I have a manual and know how my system works. The BOV does work while shifting, but it is a longer sound than a turbo, due to the characteristics of the supercharger, which is always spinning. When the car is at idle the sound from the air blowing through the BOV is VERY loud. While driving and not boosting, the sound is VERY loud. While driving and boosting, it gets quiet until the shift, yes you do hear a whoosh, but is is a lot longer in duration than a turbo. I enjoy a BOV sound, too, but the sound while there is still vacuum, is terrible.
I enjoyed the constant steely whistle of the blower shunting through the BOV while cruising but finally got tired of it--especially when driving with the windows open. I bought a one-foot length of 2 1/4" rubber hosing from an auto parts store, mailed ordered the K/N outlet filter, and installed the setup in about 15 minutes. If you do this, be sure to use an adhesive like "Goop" between the filter and the end of the tubing or it will just blow off. Tighten up two screw clamps--one on each end, wire tie the tubing to the bottom intake piping coming off the intercooler and you're done. The whole thing cost about $35.

Big difference. I can now hear the engine and exhaust while cruising with the windows down and the high pitched whistle is now very muffled. Makes for a much nicer experience and even gives the illusion that the car is faster. Maybe the slight restriction from the filter lets the vacuum reverse faster and move into boost a little quicker.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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The best way to answer any questions is with some sound/vid clips!
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